Re: kmail serious problems

Le lundi 6 février 2023, 11:07:18 CET Kevin Ottens a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> On Monday, 6 February 2023 09:35:52 CET Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > On Montag, 6. Februar 2023 08:49:41 CET Kevin Ottens wrote:
> > > On Sunday, 5 February 2023 23:42:21 CET Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > I'm telling all this because it looks like something is *really* rotten
> > > somewhere in our POP3/Maildir story. Asking people to just switch to
> > > IMAP
> > > is unrealistic though, there are valid uses for POP3.
> > 
> > The other side of the coin is that expecting developers (which
> > developers?)
> > who are using IMAP exclusively to put an extra amount of their unpaid
> > spare
> > time into keeping POP3 support in good condition is also unrealistic.
> 
> Sorry if I made it sound different earlier. But I totally agree with that of
> course.
> 
> > I think the POP3 support never really recovered from the switch to Akonadi
> > as backend and that's because all involved developers have used IMAP
> > almost
> > exclusively since ages.
> 
> I wonder if I should force myself to go back to POP3 then... not that I
> really want to since I just appreciate the services of IMAP...
> 
> > Additionally, to this KMail has effectively 0 developers and 1/10
> > maintainers. Laurent is doing an inhuman job but he
> > maintains large parts of PIM and, currently, does KF6 porting in
> > uncountable other KDE projects.
> > 
> > If you want to stay with KMail, then I recommend that you set up a local
> > dovecot to bridge POP3 to IMAP. I have done this for a couple of
> > unimportant POP3 accounts many years ago and it's been working flawlessly
> > for years now.
> 
> The thing is that we're not doing a very good job at communicating this to
> the outside then. If POP3 is really that broken and it's known, maybe
> support should be removed? Or at least prevent users to create new POP3
> setups?
> 
> Otherwise people think it's supposed to work and then think KMail is low
> quality, which I think is very far from the truth.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> PS: That being all said, my spouse is using KMail POP3 support happily. Less
> volume of mail and many less filters of course. I confess I wish she had
> troubles with it sometimes... then I'd have something manageable to try to
> debug. But luckily for a pacified home it just works.

Just for info, I use POP3 (20 years) for my private email/kde email (so a lot 
of emails). I have more than 50 filters, and all works fine.

Long time ago I wanted to start to improve pop3, but my perso time is limited 
when we remove all works on ruqola/pim*/kf6 porting :)

Perhaps after switching to kf6 I will have more time for it.

Regards.

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