Re: Kubuntu 9.10

James Ellis wrote:
> Hi
>
> Quanta + KDE4 works completely well, you just have to remember that 
> Quanta is a KDE3 app and to install Qt3 libraries etc (aptitude search 
> libqt3 for starters on the shell). There is a dependency issue as as 
> been mentioned but you can get around that by installing the KDE3 
> versions of the dependencies. KDE4 has been around since Jan 2008 so 
> you can't really blame the distro or KDE4 in itself as the problem if 
> they decide to leave non-updated KDE3 apps behind (I think Quanta and 
> the nearly-ready K3b are the only major ones left ?) I've had hoth 
> KDE3.5 and KDE4 running on the same laptop and the resource usage is 
> about the same. I have KDE4 running on a 6yr old with 1G RAM and a 64M 
> nvidia card - startup in karmic actually got faster as has the 
> desktop. I'd never go back.

 From what I've seem your right. Installing QT/KDE 3 stuff is the patch.

Next question is how is that accomplished? I have Kwebdev 3.x but can't 
figure out how to install it.The DEB won't install. Following the 
instructions for the tar.gz/source(?) don't work.

>
> Personally, I think the move to get Quanta4 going as a web oriented 
> version of Kdevelop4 is a great idea as it doesn't mean reinventing 
> the wheel. The benefits of using Qt4 Webkit should be seen as a good 
> example for doing this (think previews)

Hope it doesn't screw it straight into the ground with to much.

>
> The KDE developers have made it pretty clear that KDE3.5 will still be 
> around if you want to use it -- you just have to find a distro that 
> will support it. For me, I see KDE4 as a huge improvement both 
> technically and in the UI/desktop. The ability to easily script 
> widgets for the desktop is something web developers should be very 
> excited about.
>
> For those experiencing load/CPU issues, a good first step is to work 
> out what's actually causing it. For starters, install the CPU widget 
> on the desktop and watch as you turn Desktop Effects off (if you don't 
> need them, turn them off) or shut-down programs. As an example, I had 
> a churning CPU through KDE4.3 which turned out to be the Magic 
> Lamp/Minimise effects, for which there is a bug report on bugs.kde.org 
> <http://bugs.kde.org>. I read it, turned them off and bingo.
>
> My biggest complaint is the seeming lack of resources in Ubuntu to 
> investigate and fix Kubuntu bugs. Karmic seems to the first release 
> where KDE4 has actually gotten some energy behind it (whether from 
> Canonical or elsewhere, I don't know).
>
> HTH
> James
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:13 AM, marbux <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Alan Richmond
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>     > On Friday 30 October 2009 13:26:57 marbux wrote:
>     >> Quanta 3.x works kinda-sorta on KDE 4, although I haven't bothered
>     >> with trying to fix the issues you mention that I also
>     experienced. For
>     >> me, the fact that the Quanta HTML Tidy results editing screen
>     is too
>     >> tiny to read or edit anything was a showstopper on KDE 4 for me. .
>     >>
>     >> There may be other issues as well.
>     >
>     > I just upgraded from 3.5.10 to 4.3.1 last week on Gentoo and
>     haven't had any
>     > issues with Quanta at all.  (Well, it did take me WAY to long to
>     find the "Q+"
>     > icon to add it to the KDE4 menu.)  HTML Tidy results works like
>     always, too.
>     > Maybe because it's a parallel install.
>
>     Might be a screen resolution difference too.
>
>     Paul
>
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