Re: Regressing to earlier versions.

Abner <[email protected]> Wed, 29 May 2013 13:38:31 -0300
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Hi Martin, John and all:

El 29/05/13 11:33, john Culleton escribi=F3:
> On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:26:09 +0200
> "Dr. Martin Senftleben" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just want to step in, because I am one of those users who are very
>> sad about Quanta's discontinuation.
>>
>> Am 29.05.2013 00:30, schrieb erkin tek:
>>> I like kate, give it a try.
>>>
>>> I used it to code php, html, js
>>
>> Such suggestions don't help much. Of course one can use quite a bunch
>> of editors in replacement of Quanta, but Quanta offered much more
>> than just being an editor.
I agree with that. The editor is just a part of what an IDE such as Quant=
a did.
some years ago, there was this talk about kdevelop for php and I decided =
to give it a try.
I liked its editor features for php but never got the hang of it for mana=
ging a whole=20
site, with php, html, js...
Last year I switched to eclipse/aptana and it worked well, with good code=
 completio and=20
suggestions not only for php but also html5, css3, etc...
>>
>> There are two things which I miss a lot with any other web/php
>> development environment (not just editors!), and which were offered by=

>> quanta:
>>
>> 1. code replacement on the fly, meaning replacing ISO-characters which=

>> are not in the common range with the HTML entity (particularly German
>> Umlauts)
I used to miss this too, but nowadays, I work mainly in utf8 and I think =
it offers better=20
performance whensearching/working with databases
>>
>> 2. Pressing one key to upload the modified files to the server via
>> ftp.
In Aptana you may create an ftp connection and synchronize your local wot=
king site with=20
the ftp copy on the server
>>
>> There are environments which allow modifiying the files online, but I
>> want to work with local copies and not with the files that are on the
>> server.
>>
>> Currently I use an editor plus a ftp client, where I have to check
>> which files I edited, and then upload them. That's just plain
>> cumbersome. I haven't found any working alternative.
>>
>> It's a pity, Trinity doesn't work on Kubuntu 13.4, either. So this
>> option which I used to choose until recently is also gone. :-(
>>
>> Regards
>> Martin
The programmers for Quanta did a fantastic job and I wish to thank them f=
or making my job=20
as a web programmer a bit easier.
Regards,
     Abner

>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM, john Culleton
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      The Quanta that came with KDE3.5 was a favorite tool. The
>>> Quanta that comes with KDE4 is totally incomprehensible. Short of
>>> reinstalling slackware 12.2 on a spare partition, is there a way to
>>> get back to the previous Quanta? The one with both a code window
>>> and a web view window side by side?
>>>
>>>      I used Trinity for a while but it won't work with Slackware 14.
>>>
>>>      --
>>>      John Culleton
>>>      Wexford Press
>>>      Free list of books for self-publishers:
>>>      http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html
>>>      PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus"
>>>      available at http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html
>>>      _______________________________________________
>>>      Quanta mailing list
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>>>      https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://www.fotograf.web.tr
>>> http://oyuncukoyun.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>
> Another feature I liked was the ability to view the code, view the
> results, or view both side by side.
>


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    <font color="#000000">Hi Martin, John and all:<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><font color="#000000">El 29/05/13
        11:33, john Culleton escribi&oacute;:<br>
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    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email protected]"
      type="cite">
      <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:26:09 +0200
"Dr. Martin Senftleben" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;[email protected]&gt;</a> wrote:

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        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">Hi,

I just want to step in, because I am one of those users who are very
sad about Quanta's discontinuation.

Am 29.05.2013 00:30, schrieb erkin tek:
</font></pre>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">I like kate, give it a try.

I used it to code php, html, js
</font></pre>
        </blockquote>
        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
Such suggestions don't help much. Of course one can use quite a bunch
of editors in replacement of Quanta, but Quanta offered much more
than just being an editor.</font></pre>
      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
    <font color="#000000">I agree with that. The editor is just a part
      of what an IDE such as Quanta did.<br>
      some years ago, there was this talk about kdevelop for php and I
      decided to give it a try.<br>
      I liked its editor features for php but never got the hang of it
      for managing a whole site, with php, html, js...<br>
      Last year I switched to eclipse/aptana and it worked well, with
      good code completio and suggestions not only for php but also
      html5, css3, etc...<br>
    </font>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email protected]"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
There are two things which I miss a lot with any other web/php
development environment (not just editors!), and which were offered by
quanta:

1. code replacement on the fly, meaning replacing ISO-characters which
are not in the common range with the HTML entity (particularly German
Umlauts)</font></pre>
      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
    <font color="#000000">I used to miss this too, but nowadays, I work
      mainly in utf8 and</font> I think it offers better performance
    whensearching/working with databases<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email protected]"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
2. Pressing one key to upload the modified files to the server via
ftp.
</font></pre>
      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
    In Aptana you may create an ftp connection and synchronize your
    local wotking site with the ftp copy on the server<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email protected]"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
There are environments which allow modifiying the files online, but I
want to work with local copies and not with the files that are on the
server.

Currently I use an editor plus a ftp client, where I have to check
which files I edited, and then upload them. That's just plain
cumbersome. I haven't found any working alternative.

It's a pity, Trinity doesn't work on Kubuntu 13.4, either. So this
option which I used to choose until recently is also gone. :-(

Regards
Martin</font></pre>
      </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
    The programmers for Quanta did a fantastic job and I wish to thank
    them for making my job as a web programmer a bit easier.<br>
    Regards,<br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Abner<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:[email protected]"
      type="cite">
      <blockquote type="cite">
        <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
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        <blockquote type="cite">
          <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:45 PM, john Culleton
&lt;<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:[email protected]">&lt;mailto:[email protected]&gt;</a>&gt; wrote:

    The Quanta that came with KDE3.5 was a favorite tool. The
Quanta that comes with KDE4 is totally incomprehensible. Short of
reinstalling slackware 12.2 on a spare partition, is there a way to
get back to the previous Quanta? The one with both a code window
and a web view window side by side?

    I used Trinity for a while but it won't work with Slackware 14.

    --
    John Culleton
    Wexford Press
    Free list of books for self-publishers:
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html">http://wexfordpress.net/shortlist.html</a>
    PDF e-book: "Create Book Covers with Scribus"
    available at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html">http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html</a>
    _______________________________________________
    Quanta mailing list
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    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/quanta</a>




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      <pre wrap=""><font color="#000000">
Another feature I liked was the ability to view the code, view the
results, or view both side by side.

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