Re: Quanta+ fpr KDE 4 - GSOC

Milian Wolff <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:47:46 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.devel.quanta
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Loren Nozot, 25.02.2010:
> Hello All!
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> I am a user of Quanta+.
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> I understand the comments and professionalism of not using a GUI to create
> a website.  However, I do use the split function to check tables and
> layout of a site to help find errors in code.

This is actually a good point. But in my eyes it would be more helpful if t=
he=20
editor would show you the error directly in the code, i.e. underline some n=
on-
closed tag or any other kind of invalid markup. Look for example at the PHP=
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and CSS plugins for KDevelop.

And to debug the actual appearance tools like Firebug are much more helpful=
,=20
as they operate "on the whole". I could never have used the preview for thi=
s=20
step of debugging, since my templates don't know what CSS they get etc. pp.

But anyways: I will only remove the code to playground so if anyone else st=
eps=20
up they can bring it back. It's just probably something I won't have the ti=
me=20
for during GSoC, esp. given that I'm not particularly interested in it.

> Features I use in Q+:

I like that acronym :)

> Standard, Style, Tables, Lists, Forms, and Other tabs

I have to get my hands on Quanta 3, I have no clue what those tabs did :D

> Ability to set short-cuts for bold, button definitions, etc.

Such kind of help for editing is a must-have in my eyes. But I'll do it=20
differently than in Quanta3, now reutilizing the imo awesome Snippet suppor=
t in=20
Kate. Of course this requires the ability to associate shortcuts with=20
snippets.

> Document Structure

Here you mean the "outline" of the document, correct? I'd personally also l=
ike=20
to have something more "visual" compared to the QuickOpen outline we have=20
right now. Lets see whether I can get that in.

> php, html, xhtml, css coding color highlighting
> normal editing helps: indent, tabs, etc

Kate has all that, and we reuse it.

> WYSIWYG to check tables and layout as debugging tool (would be nice to ha=
ve
> colored borders for cells)

see above, probably not going to happen in my GSoC

> Multiple tabs for open files, and project management

Try out KDevelop's latest beta. You'll see all that is already available an=
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together with features like QuickOpen even more powerful than ever.

> Like the tools to check xhtml, html, etc.

See above, I plan to integrate some inline error checking. But this will ne=
ver=20
be 100% correct. For that, one should simply use tools like
http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/

I will probably not integrate it, since such static tools don't make much=20
sense when you edit templates with both, PHP and HTML in it.

> Also, like the tools to reformat code into usable fashion from a previous
> site which I didn't code.

Yes, I concur. This is a very helpful feature.

Thanks for your input!

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Milian Wolff
[email protected]
http://milianw.de

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