Re: Facebook

On Friday 13 August 2010 17:55:01 Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> We've discussed this before, but I've poked around and come to some 
> conclusions and would now like to get some definite progress on this.
> 
> We have two main fan pages on Facebook:
> 
> "KDE"
> - Outdated official info, no new official conent coming in
> - 3907 fans and an active fan community
> - We do not know who owns this and the owner seems inactive
> 
> "K Desktop Environment"
> - Official info kept up to date,  syndication of Dot stories and official news 
> posted around releases
> - 2355 fans who are reasonably active
> - 5 currently active KDE people as admins (Lydia, Aaron, Will, Seb, me)
> - Bad page name: there is no K Desktop Environment
> - Posts I made officially to K Desktop Environment and as a fan to KDE around 
> the 4.5 release day are much more liked and commented on in K Desktop 
> Environment - probably because official posts show up in Facebook news feeds.
> 
> Some facts about Facebook:
> - You cannot change a page name :-(
> - You cannot easily find out who owns a page
> - It sucks in general ;-)
> 
> If we get control of "KDE" or communication with the owner we can:
> - Update the description
> - Give it syndication of Dot stories as per "K Desktop Environment"
> 
> This is good because:
> - Someone searching KDE will find and join an active and useful page ("KDE" 
> already has the larger fanbase, even though it lacks content compared to "K 
> Desktop Environment")
> - We can add a note to the "K Desktop Environment" page asking new users to 
> sign up at "KDE" instead
> - We can add a news item  and message all fans to ask them to switch to "KDE"
> - *Maybe* retire "K Desktop Environment" at some point
> 
> The only way of getting in touch with the owner of "KDE" seems to be to use 
> this form:
> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/legal/copyright.php?noncopyright_notice=1
> Here we can point to the use of the KDE trademark, trying to word it as nicely 
> as possible (afterall the owner is probably a - perhaps inactive - KDE person 
> and even if not seems to have good intentions)
> This should come from someone "legally authorised to act on behalf of the 
> owner" of the IP rights. It's DMCA-style evil, but unless my suggestions below 
> work, we don't really have other options.
> 
> Proposed plan:
> - I will ask on planetkde.org for the owner of the KDE page to come forward
> - Ask elsewhere - kde-ev mailing list?
> - If we haven't identified the owner within two weeks (of asking, not of now) I 
> can make a request to Facebook using the form above. For this I would like the 
> express approval of a board member (the "legally authorised to act on behalf 
> of the owner" bit) or for one of them/Claudia to make the request.
> - Once we have contact or admin control of "KDE" we/I can set it up the same 
> way as K Desktop environment and start on the 'good' stuff above.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stu

I think this is the right course of action, good proposal. If nobody steps up after your planet.kde blog I would ask [email protected] for support and you're good to go.

 
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