Re: Facebook

On Saturday 14 August 2010 14:23:55 Thomas Thym wrote:
> +1
> I would publish it on planet
Done

> and on the kde-ev
Fancy doing this? I don't have access to such things (yet)

> perhaps kde-devel
> or another large list.
Yeah, good idea. Someone willing to do so? Or shall I sign myself up for one 
and ask (might be better coming from someone known on the list)

> I've read the information about copyrigh infringement.
> http://www.facebook.com/legal/copyright.php
> 
> I think it is important to point to our intention to get in contact
> with the site owner not to remove the page or logo or something.

Absolutely. That's also one reason to favour the Trademark route (other than 
the general lack of copyright infringement, the copyright one is DMCA which 
does pretty much oblige them to shut down the page.

I'll get some feedback on wording before we go down this route.

Cheers,
Stu

> 2010/8/13, Stuart Jarvis <[email protected]>:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > We've discussed this before, but I've poked around and come to some
> > conclusions and would now like to get some definite progress on this.
> > 
> > We have two main fan pages on Facebook:
> > 
> > "KDE"
> > - Outdated official info, no new official conent coming in
> > - 3907 fans and an active fan community
> > - We do not know who owns this and the owner seems inactive
> > 
> > "K Desktop Environment"
> > - Official info kept up to date,  syndication of Dot stories and official
> > news
> > posted around releases
> > - 2355 fans who are reasonably active
> > - 5 currently active KDE people as admins (Lydia, Aaron, Will, Seb, me)
> > - Bad page name: there is no K Desktop Environment
> > - Posts I made officially to K Desktop Environment and as a fan to KDE
> > around
> > the 4.5 release day are much more liked and commented on in K Desktop
> > Environment - probably because official posts show up in Facebook news
> > feeds.
> > 
> > Some facts about Facebook:
> > - You cannot change a page name :-(
> > - You cannot easily find out who owns a page
> > - It sucks in general ;-)
> > 
> > If we get control of "KDE" or communication with the owner we can:
> > - Update the description
> > - Give it syndication of Dot stories as per "K Desktop Environment"
> > 
> > This is good because:
> > - Someone searching KDE will find and join an active and useful page
> > ("KDE" already has the larger fanbase, even though it lacks content
> > compared to "K Desktop Environment")
> > - We can add a note to the "K Desktop Environment" page asking new users
> > to sign up at "KDE" instead
> > - We can add a news item  and message all fans to ask them to switch to
> > "KDE"
> > - *Maybe* retire "K Desktop Environment" at some point
> > 
> > The only way of getting in touch with the owner of "KDE" seems to be to
> > use this form:
> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/legal/copyright.php?noncopyright_noti
> > ce=1 Here we can point to the use of the KDE trademark, trying to word it
> > as nicely
> > as possible (afterall the owner is probably a - perhaps inactive - KDE
> > person
> > and even if not seems to have good intentions)
> > This should come from someone "legally authorised to act on behalf of the
> > owner" of the IP rights. It's DMCA-style evil, but unless my suggestions
> > below
> > work, we don't really have other options.
> > 
> > Proposed plan:
> > - I will ask on planetkde.org for the owner of the KDE page to come
> > forward - Ask elsewhere - kde-ev mailing list?
> > - If we haven't identified the owner within two weeks (of asking, not of
> > now) I
> > can make a request to Facebook using the form above. For this I would
> > like the
> > express approval of a board member (the "legally authorised to act on
> > behalf of the owner" bit) or for one of them/Claudia to make the
> > request. - Once we have contact or admin control of "KDE" we/I can set
> > it up the same way as K Desktop environment and start on the 'good'
> > stuff above.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stu
> > 
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