Re: Facebook

Excellent! You rock, Stu!

2010/8/18 Stuart Jarvis <[email protected]>:
> On Saturday 14 August 2010 14:23:55 Thomas Thym wrote:
>> +1
>> I would publish it on planet
> Done
>
>> and on the kde-ev
> Fancy doing this? I don't have access to such things (yet)
>
>> perhaps kde-devel
>> or another large list.
> Yeah, good idea. Someone willing to do so? Or shall I sign myself up for one
> and ask (might be better coming from someone known on the list)
>
>> I've read the information about copyrigh infringement.
>> http://www.facebook.com/legal/copyright.php
>>
>> I think it is important to point to our intention to get in contact
>> with the site owner not to remove the page or logo or something.
>
> Absolutely. That's also one reason to favour the Trademark route (other than
> the general lack of copyright infringement, the copyright one is DMCA which
> does pretty much oblige them to shut down the page.
>
> I'll get some feedback on wording before we go down this route.
>
> Cheers,
> Stu
>
>> 2010/8/13, Stuart Jarvis <[email protected]>:
>> > Hey,
>> >
>> > We've discussed this before, but I've poked around and come to some
>> > conclusions and would now like to get some definite progress on this.
>> >
>> > We have two main fan pages on Facebook:
>> >
>> > "KDE"
>> > - Outdated official info, no new official conent coming in
>> > - 3907 fans and an active fan community
>> > - We do not know who owns this and the owner seems inactive
>> >
>> > "K Desktop Environment"
>> > - Official info kept up to date,  syndication of Dot stories and official
>> > news
>> > posted around releases
>> > - 2355 fans who are reasonably active
>> > - 5 currently active KDE people as admins (Lydia, Aaron, Will, Seb, me)
>> > - Bad page name: there is no K Desktop Environment
>> > - Posts I made officially to K Desktop Environment and as a fan to KDE
>> > around
>> > the 4.5 release day are much more liked and commented on in K Desktop
>> > Environment - probably because official posts show up in Facebook news
>> > feeds.
>> >
>> > Some facts about Facebook:
>> > - You cannot change a page name :-(
>> > - You cannot easily find out who owns a page
>> > - It sucks in general ;-)
>> >
>> > If we get control of "KDE" or communication with the owner we can:
>> > - Update the description
>> > - Give it syndication of Dot stories as per "K Desktop Environment"
>> >
>> > This is good because:
>> > - Someone searching KDE will find and join an active and useful page
>> > ("KDE" already has the larger fanbase, even though it lacks content
>> > compared to "K Desktop Environment")
>> > - We can add a note to the "K Desktop Environment" page asking new users
>> > to sign up at "KDE" instead
>> > - We can add a news item  and message all fans to ask them to switch to
>> > "KDE"
>> > - *Maybe* retire "K Desktop Environment" at some point
>> >
>> > The only way of getting in touch with the owner of "KDE" seems to be to
>> > use this form:
>> > http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/legal/copyright.php?noncopyright_noti
>> > ce=1 Here we can point to the use of the KDE trademark, trying to word it
>> > as nicely
>> > as possible (afterall the owner is probably a - perhaps inactive - KDE
>> > person
>> > and even if not seems to have good intentions)
>> > This should come from someone "legally authorised to act on behalf of the
>> > owner" of the IP rights. It's DMCA-style evil, but unless my suggestions
>> > below
>> > work, we don't really have other options.
>> >
>> > Proposed plan:
>> > - I will ask on planetkde.org for the owner of the KDE page to come
>> > forward - Ask elsewhere - kde-ev mailing list?
>> > - If we haven't identified the owner within two weeks (of asking, not of
>> > now) I
>> > can make a request to Facebook using the form above. For this I would
>> > like the
>> > express approval of a board member (the "legally authorised to act on
>> > behalf of the owner" bit) or for one of them/Claudia to make the
>> > request. - Once we have contact or admin control of "KDE" we/I can set
>> > it up the same way as K Desktop environment and start on the 'good'
>> > stuff above.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Stu
>> >
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