Re: Join The Game website

Emil Sedgh <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.events
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi.

On Panj shanbe, Bahman 07, 1389 02:49:45 am Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2011, Emil Sedgh wrote:
> > so, please help us, and report bugs to us, and finally, suggestions
> > and ideas are welcomed.
> 
> a nice re-work .. :)
> 
> 
> braindump cometh:
> 
> * the fourth reason isn't a reason, it's the acknowledgement of
> commonalities between the reader and KDE.
I was actually hoping you will come up with complete replacements for all 
items there. I copied them from the old website as kind of a placeholder.

> * instead of "four reasons to join us", perhaps re-use the tag line: "three
> reasons to join the game"
What im thinking is that we dont really have to use the bottom of the page for 
'reasons'. We can come up with one or two reasons (do we have actually more 
than one reason?) and describe other things in other columns.
For example "what the hell does that money do, exactly?"

> * instead of "the desktop" in the image slideshow ("the desktop", "the
> people", "join the game") i'd put "the software"
Done.

> * i wonder if it would be possible to add a fourth image in that
> progression: "the freedom". that would tie in with "be free" and give a
> possitive message that ties in with the three reasons you are already kde
> even before you knew it by joining :)
Design is done by Nuno. I will ask him to come up with an image to help us 
here.
Many other items you mentioned are design-specific as well. I will do my best 
to fix those i can.

> * the images are very eye catching (good thing) but it's really the Join
> now! button we want people to hit. is there a way to visually bring the
> images and the Join now! button together better? e.g. instead of a border
> around the images that set them appart completely from everything else,
> have the image frame joined with the grey bar that houses the Join now!
> button?
> 
> * the people in the middle area seems too visually repetative to me? it's
> already in the header, it's already the "punch line" on the last image and
> it gets in the feng shui of the black->blue gradient ... without actually
> adding any meaning of their own. less is more here, perhaps.
> 
> it's similar with the word "join" which appears six times on that page,
> scattered here and there. esp the 'join the game' tag in the grey bar which
> is also in the header and so just fights with the "Join now!" button.
Removed it. 

> now that i look at it, i think it might be the header itself that's the
> problem space. "radical" idea: could the header be removed? would it be
> better to have people focus right on the content directly in this case?
> it's not a content heavy site, after all.
I removed the header and moved the menu bar to footer. (where currently the 
trademark message is). The mockup is got from Nuno had a menu bar in both 
footer and header. 

> e.g., why a List of Members? Login could be a button (different color?)
> next to "Join now!" so that it's evident that after you join there's
> something ongoing. the "Join" link is redundant. that just leaves "Home",
> and maybe we can get away without that ...
List of members should be there because some people have agreed their names to 
be publicly mentioned by e.v as supporters. And it was a feature request I had 
from claudia.

> i just blocked out the header on my screen here and it looks a -lot- better
> without it imho :) a lot better visual flow, much less redundancy and i'm
> visually taken straight to the "meat and potatoes" of "cool stuff, i want
> to join now!"
> 
> 
> switching gears, the text on left side says: "Become an official member of
> KDE e.V.
> 
> For €25 a quarter you can ensure the international community of KDE
> continues to grow making world class Free Software. "
> 
> the sell point isn't really "become an official member", right? that's the
> how, but is it motivational? perhaps it could be incorporated into the join
> the game picture or even just left out of the landing pitch page
> altogether?
> 
> also, i'd suggest putting the reason and the person first and the money
> last: "You can help ensure that the international KDE community continues
> to grow and make world-class Free Software for just €8.33 a month!" (ok,
> or €25 a quarter; i just find that such an awkward way of wording it :)
I will change it to what you proposed for now. If you have any better way of 
saying it, or in any other place, if you want the text changed, just give me 
your proposed text.

> i'm also left wondering "what the hell does that money do, exactly?" if the
> wording was tightened down (e.g. by removing the "become an official
> member" line?) then there would be room for a "Learn more ..." type link
> that shows the benefits clearly.
As i said earlier, we can explain this instead of one of those 'reasons'.
> 
> when hitting "Join now!" there is no sign of progress, just "enter your
> email". the # of steps and which step you are on should be there. often
> this is done with a strip showing the heading of each step and the current
> one activiated. also the word "submit" on the button (besides the negative
> psych connotations, esp after all that talk of participatory joining :) is
> html jargon; perhaps a more human friendly "next"?
Is a next button enough or do you want me to add a breadcrumb widget at top?

Also, with Nuno's help we changed some other stuff and it looks better now. 
Also, without the header, other pages (like enter your email address) became 
too empt. so i enabled the teaser area on all pages. tell me what you think.
 
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