Re: Commit Digest and Dot

On 2011-04-05 Danny wrote:
> I agree, it was quite demotivating for me when I did the Digest
> myself to do all that work and see little or no comments on the Dot,
> even though I knew it was quite highly read.
> 
> As a long time Dot editor, I know the whole backstory surrounding the
> comment situation, but even taking into account its goals, I
> consider the policy a failure. I will look at sending an email to
> the Dot list to start a discussion about this (although i'm not sure
> how simple technically it is for them to turn off the authentication
> system now...)

Afaik anonymous commenting has been turned on for a while on the dot, 
but resulted in quite some spam. I don't know the status of automatic 
anti-spam measures... Maybe someone on www knows?

> Cheers,
> Danny
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marco Krohn" <[email protected]>
> To: "digest" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, 4 April, 2011 12:24:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Commit Digest and Dot
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> from my point of view I would appreciate a bit more feedback on the
> dot. Compared to the situation before the moderation system and the
> requirement for an account (on dot.kde) came into place there were a
> lot more comments after the Digest was published (at least this is my
> unscientific impression). On the plus side there were also a lot more
> SPAM / Troll comments.
> 
> From my own experience I know that I do not comment on many websites
> because I am too lazy to create just another account (even if it
> takes me <1 minute). As I forget my passwords on some websites which
> I do not use very often (and which are not stored in my webbrowser)
> I also find me to not comment on these sites because I am too lazy
> to look up the password.
> 
> In my opinion, lowering the entry barrier again and not asking
> requiring an account to comment (just a captcha to prevent spam)
> would probably increase the number of comments. Likely we would also
> get more feedback from trolls again. However, as the moderation
> system +1/-1 would be in place they would get modded down quickly
> and would not harm too much.
> 
> I would be interested in your views and suggestions... Do you think
> it would make sense to ask the dot admins whether this could be
> tested?
> 
> Have a nice day,
>   Marco
> 
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Stuart Jarvis 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hey Vlad,
> > 
> > (by the way, I think we're all on the digest list so no need to cc
> > me)
> > 
> > On Wednesday 23 March 2011 17:03:53 Vladislav Blanton wrote:
> >> Well, it seems to me that wednesday would be a good day to have it
> >> go live on the Dot each week. We currently aim to have the digest
> >> ready by tuesday evening (wed morning at the latest).
> > 
> > Given turnaround times on the Dot we'd probably need a bit more of
> > a margin. It used to be that the Danny would publish the digest a
> > week later (i.e. on the Sunday after the date the digest referred
> > to. But if you guys are getting these done mostly by Tuesday we
> > can surely go a bit earlier.
> > 
> > How about Friday as a candidate? Article submitted/uploaded by
> > Wednesday, then a full day to give someone time to check it before
> > publishing on Friday?
> > 
> >> As for being on the dot editors list, I'd be happy to give it a
> >> try. Just fill me in on the basics and I should be able to go
> >> from there!
> > 
> > Take a look at:
> > http://community.kde.org/Promo/Dot
> > 
> > And particularly:
> > http://community.kde.org/Promo/Dot/Drupal
> > 
> > You won't need much of the information in that as the Commit Digest
> > articles are pretty simple and you're basically formatting them
> > great already. We're mostly just copying and pasting what you send
> > us into a form in Drupal :-)
> > 
> > I'll try start off the process of getting you set up as a dot
> > editor and email you directly.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stu
> 
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