Re: [SPAM] Re: kde haters' blog

On Monday 13 June 2011 23:04:17 Thomas Thym wrote:
> On Monday 13 June 2011 21:46:27 wrote Dion Moult:
> > On Monday 13 June 2011 21:46:33 Lydia Pintscher wrote:
> > > Can we please not do that?
> > > If anyone is looking for people writing negative stuff there is a
> > > whole internet out there already with it. We don't need to add more.
> > > Trolls don't need our help finding stuff to complain about in KDE's
> > > software.
> > 
> > Which is why it is contained to PlanetKDE with only the developers
> > participating. It's bound to be constructive, not "trolling" at all.
> > Especially if we set up limitations like only talk about the app you dev
> > on, or such.
> > 
> > > Give this a positive kick like "Describe the KDE app of your dreams."
> > > or similar. Or at least make it constructive and don't call it hate
> > > something.
> > 
> > Agree the name could be much better.
> 
> I agree in the point that some form of critical feedback could help us to
> improve our software. However I am wondering if there are not better ways
> to do that. I am for a transparent communication process but this could be
> too much in public adressing the "wrong" people. Having the discussion
> focused on the future may help (to focus on how the software should look
> like or act like or something), but I read too many "you should do this
> and that" posts and mails in the last weeks.

It's an interesting idea, but I share some of the concerns expressed. Here are 
some ways we could potentially keep it positive, if it was as a blog series on 
PlanetKDE:

- you have to blog about either a flaw in some software/project you are in the 
team for OR an issue that you are currently fixing
- you then, within the same blog post are allowed to mention an issue outside 
your area of work that you would like to see fixed and you have to link to a 
bug report to the issue (making one if one does not exist).

So it could go something like:
I think the categories on the Dot are pretty useless, here is how I have/will 
fix them.
By the way, this is my pet hate in Plasma.

or:
Nepomuk indexing takes too many resources, here's my patch to make it better.
I dislike address book navigation in Kontact because...

(I'm not sure about the second point of encouraging criticism of something in 
another project/team - my hope is that making people first identify or fix a flaw 
that they are responsible for should cut down the rant factor).

The series (say a week on planet kde) could then be a very visible fixing of 
issues in KDE and our software. Of course, people fix bugs all the time, but 
they're not normally that excited to blog about it - features are cooler ;-)

> KDE is "share the love" :-)
> (Please do not ask for hate *g*)

Yep, there's enough of that floating around already. Plenty of love too though 
:-)

If we don't come to some consensus here on the list perhaps we can get 
together at the Desktop Summit and see if we can come up with something?

KDE hugs to everyone,
Stu

-- 
Stuart Jarvis
KDE Marketing Working Group, Promotion Team and KDE.News

Experience Freedom with KDE
http://www.kde.org/
 
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