Re: About the Edu-Sprint and Sponsorship in Randa.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Aleix Pol <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Tomaz Canabrava <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Thomas Thym <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Monday 09 July 2012, 00.02:23 Aleix Pol wrote:
>> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Thomas Thym <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > With extrinsic motivation (you get a carrot if you donte) we are
>> >> > destroying
>> >> > intrinsic motivation (to donate to do good or to support a project
>> >> > wich is
>> >> > important for you).
>> >> > More options make it more difficult to deside. A couple of weeks (or
>> >> > perhaps
>> >> > months) I donated for a project with about 100 possibilities,
>> >> > depending on
>> >> > 5
>> >> > or 10 USD stepps (ok, what feeled like 100 was more than 10 or 15 in
>> >> > reality.)
>> >> > A had an amount in mind when I entered the site and was so confused
>> >> > by the
>> >> > options that I left the site to deside. Luckily I came back an
>> >> > donated the
>> >> > amount I was planing. But am not sure until today if I should write
>> >> > an
>> >> > e-mail,
>> >> > that I don't need the carrot.
>> >> >
>> >> > So I would be carefull with offering carrots for donations. But
>> >> > perhaps it
>> >> > is
>> >> > only me thinking this way and it is successful by these projekts.
>> >> >
>> >> > But in general it is a good idea to have a donation option.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thomas
>> >>
>> >> I tend to agree. I don't really understand how it works, but I'm sure
>> >> that
>> >> as soon as you give something in exchange it becomes more about the
>> >> exchanged thing instead of the sponsorship itself.
>> >>
>> >> I think that if we want to give something back it should be something
>> >> that
>> >> clearly shows it's not an exchange. Like a post card, or so.
>> >>
>> >> Aleix
>> >
>> > Just some background information to the two psychological effects:
>> >
>> > 1. Crowding out motivation (intrinsic motivation is destroyed by
>> > extrinsic
>> > motivation).
>> >
>> > "These negative effects of performance-contingent rewards can best be
>> > illustrated by an field experiment of Gneezy and Rustichini (2000). It
>> > analyzes the behavior of school children collecting money voluntarily,
>> > i.e.
>> > without monetary compensation (e.g. for cancer research or disabled
>> > children).
>> > The children reduced their efforts by about 36 percent when they were
>> > promised
>> > a bonus of one percent of the money collected. Their effort to collect
>> > for a
>> > good cause could be raised when the bonus was increased from one to 10
>> > percent
>> > of the money collected. But they did not reach the initial collection
>> > level
>> > [without bonus] again. This field experiment shows clearly that there
>> > are two
>> > countervailing forces affecting behavior: a crowding-out effect of
>> > rewards and
>> > an effect of motivating the children extrinsically after the intrinsic
>> > motivation has been decreased."
>> >
>> > http://wiki.informatik.unibw-
>> > muenchen.de/confluence/display/interactcomm/Crowding-
>> > Out+of+Intrinsic+Motivation
>> >
>> > 2. The paradox of choise (more choise leads to better desicions but
>> > makes you
>> > unhappy).
>> > More possibilities makes it harder to deside and afterwards you are
>> > unhappy
>> > because you are unsure that you really mode the perfect desicion.
>> >
>> > There is a brillant TED talk by Barry Schwartz on the paradox of choice
>> >
>> > http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/barry_schwartz_on_the_paradox_of_choice.html
>> >
>> > esp. from Minute 07:45
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
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>> well... ._.
>>
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>
> XD
>
> Don't get down so easily. I think that all you said has little to do with
> giving something in exchange to the contribution. I think it's very
> important that who will put money in Randa knows what kind of awesome things
> we're doing.
>
> The fact that KDE Edu has been used to teach kids in Brazil is wonderful
> news and something that I think everyone should be proud to collaborate with
> such an initiative.
>
> Aleix

Well, Good news is that I'v got an 'ok' from the company that I work
on to put a bit of money on it, as soon as we sort things out.

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