Re: Use new Konqi mascot

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:28:26AM +0200, Luca Beltrame wrote:
> What did it add to the discussion? None. Zero.
> It only stirred up stop energy 
>
did it occur to you that this was *exactly* the point of my post? i
consider this a completely, fundamentally misdirected effort, and the
more i can demotivate its protagonists in this regard, the more of a
success it is.

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:44:59AM +0200, Ingo Malchow wrote:
> You would be surprised how much more is happening in this entire community 
> when you sneak out of your hole. And i must assume you sit in one, else you 
> would have noticed that far earlier. There were blogposts, ton of feedback on 
> the contest itself.
>
you would be surprised how little time people with a job and/or a life have
for following "community affairs". i read core-devel & frameworks-devel
(because that's where i'm still somewhat involved), promo to keep track
of (local) events, and ev-membership, because that's where the overall
community is represented best.

when somebody starts an initiative to change something so fundamental, i
expect them to properly think through whom and how they should ask about
it, and how to pro-actively communicate it to those who will be affected
by it.
(which reminds me of a certain scene from the hitchhiker's guide
involving bulldozers ...)

> > and yes, i find this artwork personally awful, and a disastrous fit for
> > kde as a whole - i can already see the faces of the business users who
> > open the about dialog to be greeted with an oversized, flashy,
> > ridiculously looking logo.
> 
> Complete missunderstanding then, which shows how much you yourself thought out 
> before writing that complete mess. We are talking about a mascot here, not a 
> logo.
>
yeah, nice attempt to outsmart me.
from the perspective of the about dialog reader, the mascot+logo
combination represents a single "logo". bikeshedding about the precise
terms adds exactly zero value.

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 02:03:29AM +0200, Myriam Schweingruber wrote:
> Seems there are some questions here that go totally unanswered:
> 
thanks, that summarizes it very well.
my reaction is a direct result of failing to properly address these
questions - not only now, but quite a while ago already, when the whole
idea to change the mascot was born to start with.

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