Re: Community ML

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Carl Symons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> No press release. No Dot story.
>>>>
>>>> If someone wants to write up something, a Dot editor can review and
>>>> edit it. The story should include "So what...why is this news?" Just
>>>> sending out the information about a mailing list isn't interesting or
>>>> newsworthy.
>>>
>>> It is on my plate as I was asked to do it to make it a bit more
>>> official. If anyone wants to help let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Lydia
>>
>> Yes. I'm really excited about what this list can bring to the KDE
>> community. Using the e.V. list for this purpose (general community
>> stuff) is not open and transparent enough.
>>
>> Valorie
>
> I've jotted down some thoughts here: https://notes.kde.org/p/KDE-Community_ML
>
> Not quite there, however.
>
> Valorie
>

Hello Valorie,

Thank you for your efforts.

The following is apparently intended to answer the question "Why is this news?"
"And now we have a mail list to foster that community, open to all. In
the past, much discussion of this sort happened on the e.V. list,
which is open only to members. In the interest of transparency,
members agreed that most discussion should be public, so the
KDE-Community list has been created. All interested people are invited
to join: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community"

It doesn't get the job done.

It's not compelling.
* Why would a non-e.V. member join this?
* What do they get out of it?
* Where is content from all the people who argued for this?
* From the perspective of a not-KDE-rabid-fan (aka The Audience), so what?

In addition, it's written from an in-crowd perspective. To
explain...before Jos and Stu suggested that I become an e.V. member, I
didn't know that e.V. existed. I knew that there was an inner circle,
having once worked with a couple of inner circle people who obviously
knew more about the particular project than I did.

From the perspective of a non-cognoscenti, this paragraph will
probably raise all kinds of questions.

Rather than going through how it lands for me in detail, I encourage
you and others who support the community mailing list to imagine the
announcement from the point of view of someone who does not live and
breathe KDE.

This announcement is gonna take some work...looking up comments that
were part of the discussion, considering how other successful
communities operate in this area, coming up with something that
entices people to join in. I'm not able to do that.

Carl


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