Re: 4.13 release notes: start early

On Friday 22 November 2013 21:43:38 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> Am Freitag, 22. November 2013, 18.17:27 schrieb Carl Symons:
> 
> Morning Carl
> 
> First: You don't need to CC: me as I'm still on this list.
> 
> > On Friday, November 22, 2013 11:26 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote:
> > > Morning guys
> > > 
> > > As there are already starting to appear first blog post about 4.13
> > > stuff
> > > on the planet let's start early with a collection of them:
> > > 
> > > https://notes.kde.org/p/release_4.13
> > > 
> > > Cu
> > > Mario
> > 
> > These reminders are much appreciated, Mario.
> 
> Welcome.
> 
> > However, the content needs to come from developers and maintainers. With
> > proper input, the promo team can put together a message.
> 
> The input I add to this page(s) come from them. Blog posts, dot stories,
> etc. You don't propose to wait for developer to contact us what we should
> write in the release notes?
> 
> Or another question: Do you think the above link/notes are useless?
> 
> > And as we've discussed previously, announcements and Dot stories about
> > them are more effective if they feature significant and interesting
> > developments rather than if they report some big improvements/some small
> > tweaks/bits and pieces of everything in between/AND MUCH MORE!
> 
> What's the difference between "significnat and interesting developments"
> and "big improvements"? Or do you see the problem that we mix big and
> small improvements?
> 
> Do I understand you correctly that we should just keep big features in the
> announcements and scratch bug fixes and small features?
> 
> > As an alternative to developers speaking up about what they've done, it
> > might be an interesting promo project to go through the commit digests
> > (links in stories on dot.kde.org) and pull out the big news. Someone
> > would
> > have to take this on...any takers?
> 
> I went through the commit-digest dot stories and the possible 4.12 stuff to
> the 4.12 notes (and plan the same for 4.13) and I went through the
> planet.kde.org and added all relevant blog post to the notes about 4.12
> (and 4.13). That's already done.
> 
> > Is there anything happening in the developer channels to bubble good
> > stuff
> > to the surface?
> 
> Quite some questions but I want to understand you correctly.

I'm not really getting Carl's point either - that is not to say I disagree 
with him, I never would, I just don't understand what I agree with :D

/J

> Best regards
> Mario
> 
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