Re: Plasma Next Naming

Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2014, 22.08:36 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

Morning

> > Until now, we've been using "Plasma 2" as a working title for the next
> > version of Plasma. We never formalized this, and the last discussion we
> > had about this died out without producing a clear result. We've gone over
> > these points during the sprint, and discussed some details about it.
> > 
> > Some things that came up that we think are important for a new name:
> > 
> > - We don't want it to be too technical, it should be engaging to "normal
> > 
> >   people"
> > 
> > - Version numbers seem confusing an not very expressive, these should
> > rather be a technical detail (for example to group bugzilla entries)
> > - We want something that can be related to its release date
> > - We don't want to see it tied to a single class of devices
> > 
> > We came up with the following scheme, which we'd like to propose:
> > 
> > * The upcoming release of the KDE Plasma Workspaces is called Plasma
> > * The version number used is Month (as name) + year
> > * Each release gets a codename based on a marine animal (*1), in
> > alphabetical order, one for each feature release
> > * The exact name should be decided by the promo team (we have domain
> > experts that can give input, *ahum*)
> > * "workspaces" should hardly be used at all, it's a technical term and
> > doesn't bear all that much meaning for users
> > 
> > So, some examples how that's used:
> > 
> > * "Please file a bug against Plasma June/2014"
> > * "Plasma by KDE" (don't use "KDE Plasma", but rather "by KDE")
> > * "KDE Releases Plasma Angelfish"
> > 
> > A release could go along with an illustration of said animal to make it
> > more engaging.
> > 
> > (*1) we chose from a lot of options, and find marine animals quite nice
> > for the following reasons:
> > 
> > - Many options
> > - Animals are easy to relate to for non-technical users
> > - There are many choices, and they can be connected to different
> > 
> >   characteristics (think of swordfish for speediness, for example)
> > 
> > - The names often bear some meaning without knowing the exact animal in
> > 
> >   question
> > 
> > - It's rather easy to express concepts like organic, elegance, while
> > being
> > 
> >   playful and colorful
> > 
> > Some example that I've found possibly suitable after a bit of research:
> > Angelfish (example http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Angelfish , eloquent and colorful
> > ), Barracuda ( http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Barracuda ; fast and mean ),
> > Clownfish ( http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Clownfish ; small but fierce ), etc. As
> > you can see, there's quite the variety.
> > 
> > Feedback to this proposal is very welcome, but please keep in mind that
> > we would like to move on with this question. It's highly subjective to
> > bike-shedding, and a decision is better than no decision.
> 
> So the thing Aaron brings up is that the codename (fish or whatever)
> creates an additional thing to learn/understand and some extra confusion.
> A few have agreed with that. And the points about the image one creates
> are clear.
> 
> There obviously are positive arguments, with this bringing some fun,
> creativity etc to the table.
> 
> It seems to me that Ivan's suggestion of having the animal name as a
> /for friends/ name is something we can agree on in principle, even though
> the exact implementation (should it be in the about dialog or not?) is
> open.
> 
> I'd like to point out that openSUSE has a similar tradition of code names.
> And I suspect very few of you who run openSUSE know the code names of the
> current and previous release. It does not harm our image, I'm fairly
> certain of that. It also does not give us the benefits of the 'funny
> names' of Ubuntu, except for the entertainment of our own community (who
> are often left to wonder what the logic behind the scheme is).
> 
> Reminding you that consensus does not mean full agreement but a willingness
> to cede one's opinion to a majority, I'd like to ask if we can move forward
> with the initial proposal, under the provision that we will keep the code
> names as an internal matter mostly. Thus, more openSUSE style than Ubuntu.
> This leaves us the space for talking it up more or less depending on how
> people respond or opinions change in the future.
> 
> So:
> "Plasma by KDE"
> "KDE releases Plasma June 2014" (6-2014?)
> "KDE releases the First/Second/Third Update to the October 2014 release of
> Plasma"
> And the code name is visible perhaps in the about dialog but not featuring
> prominently in the release announcement.
> 
> How about it?

A big +1!

Btw. about the animal names of Ubuntu. I think they lose their value very much 
if you leave the area of people speaking and understanding english (and I like 
very much that we and free software in general is quite good in i18n and 
l10n!=

> And thank you all for having kept the discussion constructive.
> 
> /Jos
> 
> > Cheers,

Hugs
Mario

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