Re: Releases overwhelming us - need for improving the dot?

On Friday 11 April 2014 20:34:08 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Jos Poortvliet <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > A bunch of people, including Mario and myself and people from the release
> > team of course are spending quite a bit of time on release work. There's
> > a
> > whole bunch of beta's and RC's atm, and with the releases splitting up,
> > more work is coming, not less.
> > 
> > A few people have already shared some ideas about dealing with that -
> > clustering releases (all development releases together twice a month, all
> > bugfix releases once a month etc), getting new people involved, making
> > changes to our infrastructure.
> > 
> > What exactly needs to change I can't tell you but I think all three above
> > have to be part of the solution if the situation is to become more
> > sustainable.
> > 
> > So, we need to get together and work on this. That needs not only promo
> > people but also one or more people able/willing to touch the code of the
> > dot so we can automate and fix a few things. For one, people can submit
> > articles - but that system does not work. It would be great if that
> > would indeed result in something that can reasonably quickly be edited
> > in shape. I think it would also help to have templates in place so we
> > can more easily and quickly put together release announcements,
> > especially the 'boring' ones like development- and bugfix releases.
> 
> Please clarify how the current system doesn't work - it is a touch
> difficult to fix things without knowing how it is broken.

Broken is a big word perhaps - we only have a form where one can send emails 
to the dot editors. Ideally, people would be able to just create an article 
and submit it for review instead of sending a odt or txt file and pictures in 
an email and having us do all the markup & stuff.

> In terms of the current code - the Dot is powered by Drupal 7 using
> several off the shelf modules.
> For numerous reasons, i'd suggest we continue to use off the shelf
> modules where possible (eases maintainability, helps with security,
> etc).

I don't disagree ;-)

BTW if it is possible to add a graphical editor, that'd be quite nice. I 
don't use them a lot but with some basics like adding images and esp tables 
it is often easier and quicker to be able to switch between a graphical 
editor and a direct html view.

In any case, for me it is very much about having a conversation about what we 
could do to improve things and then doing it - be it adjusting or creating 
some scripts to make the changes needed for a release in KDE's svn easier or 
whatever... I'm not saying the system is broken, I'm saying it is becoming 
more work and at least Mario and myself can't sustain the amount of work we 
put in over the last months.

> > Mario proposed to get together at Randa for a Dot hackaton. Another
> > option
> > would be Akademy. I personally can't make it to Randa but I will be at
> > Akademy.
> > 
> > Please comment on these three questions:
> > * Do you agree a dot hackaton could help and are you willing to help out?
> > * Are there 'techies' willing/able to help out on the dot code?
> > * What option (Randa or Akademy) would work for you?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Jos
> > 
> > PS sorry it took me a while, Mario...
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben

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