Re: Plasma 5

On Friday, May 09, 2014 08:54:29 AM Stuart Jarvis wrote:
> On Thursday 08 May 2014 21:10:46 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> > Hi kde-promo,
> > 
> > Within the Plasma team, many of us would like to go forward using version
> > 5
> > for our upcoming release ("Plasma 5"). We'd like to propose it to be taken
> > forward. (The version "in the code" is already at 5, anyway.)
> 
> For the reasons given by Jos [1] and John [2] in the plasma-devel thread, I
> think Plasma 2 is the better solution (better than the date numbering system
> too, though I didn't mind that too much). Plasma 5 will become/continue to
> be KDE 5 - I don't think there's anything much we'll be able to do to
> prevent that.
> 
> Not much else to say, really, except that I'll do my best to work with the
> Plasma 5 branding if that's the decision.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stu
> 
> [1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-May/030880.html
> [2] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2014-May/030900.html
> 

Thank you for the references, Stu.

Trying to distinguish Applications, Development Platform and Desktop based on 
some numbering relationships probably won't work. What's needed is something 
more definitive and fundamental.

We are addressing a continuum of audiences from endusers to intimately 
involved/highly informed technical people. Based on my interactions mostly at 
the enduser level, these are people who will refer simply to "KDE". They don't 
even talk about KDE 4 anymore. And they mostly are referring to the Plasma 
Desktop, not Applications and certainly not libraries. This group barely 
realizes the distinction "Plasma Desktop" and are not likely to get "Plasma 
v2".

Moving towards the technical end of the audience spectrum, the distinctions we 
use make more and more sense. Technical journalists need labels that make 
sense to their various technical audiences. Ultimately, downstream projects 
need to know versioning exactly. These projects make some effort to 
distinguish Plasma from KDE Software (Kubuntu), KDE desktop (openSUSE), or KDE 
Plasma Desktop (Fedora) for their audiences, but they do not get much beyond 
that.

Regarding Development Platform and Frameworks...the audience is not clear to 
me, beyond the Qt community. It is certainly not endusers.

So this issue is less about numbering schemas and more about the Big Three 
chunks of what the KDE Community offers. I think that we and those we serve 
would benefit from decoupling the major categories of Plasma Desktop, KDE 
Applications and Frameworks. Then we can deal with versioning within each of 
those categories.

BTW, I agree with Martin Klapetek that people will refer to KDE 5, but we 
don't need to encourage that.

Carl



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