Re: KDE Apps Release Announcement

On Friday, 14 December 2018 14:12:39 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 01:14:46PM +0100, Paul Brown wrote:
> > On Friday, 14 December 2018 13:07:22 CET Jonathan Riddell wrote:
> > > Nobody on the promo team contacted Christoph that I saw.
> > 
> > That is correct. Indeed, I did not know who Cristoph was or that he was in
> > charge until yesterday. I am not sure how this is relevant to the
> > discussion, though.
> 
> Having the promo bits coordinated means the release person and the
> promo team need to be in contact. 

Oh yes. This is crucial.

> Not knowing who he is means that's
> not possible.  It would have been trivial to find out

Well... Maybe if you know what you are looking for and where to look. There 
are a lot of things going on simultaneously and a lot of tasks on the 
workboard. I, for one, find it hard to keep track of everything and everybody. 

> and of course he
> did open a Workboard item for the purpose
> https://phabricator.kde.org/T10131 .

Or you could have just said. You are on the Promo often, something I find 
reassuring. When you saw the rest of us struggling, you could've just pointed 
out the task or directly to the person we were supposed to talk to and that 
would've saved a lot of time.

I understand, though: It is not obvious how much stuff we still don't know and 
what is obvious to you, an old-hand if ever there was one, is not so obvious 
to the many of the rest of us.

That is why we tried to set up a subgroup of liaisons, so that people with 
more experience and that had a foot in each camp could assist with these kind 
of things. It may time to re-visit this task and make it a bit more formal. It 
would definitely have helped this time around.

> > > The article
> > > on Dot is great but would be been better written a few days before so
> > > it could be the main announcement.
> > 
> > Can you explain this? Are you saying the announcement should've been on
> > the
> > Dot?
> 
> The story at
> https://dot.kde.org/2018/12/13/kde-applications-1812-are-waiting-for-you
> 
> would have made a great release announcement which could have gone here (and
> the Dot)
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-18.12.0.php

Ah. Okay. We were working under the premise that the dot should have a more 
informal and chatty tone than the formal official announcement. 

Hence, we thought that we were looking for two different texts and therefore 
that it didn't matter if the dot text was ready after the official text.

We did look over and edit the official announcement text and pushed some 
changes, but left it as close as to the original as possible, firstly because 
it was in general fine, secondly because we thought it was best to not tamper 
too much with IT, lest we deviate too much from what the developers wanted to 
say and put our foot in it.

Be as it may, the announcement didn't work out so bad, right? It is good to 
have these feedback discussions so we can work on shortcomings and make sure 
things work smoother the next time around, which I am sure they will.

Cheers

Paul

> 
> Jonathan


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