Re: GCompris Video 3
"frances.tait" <[email protected]> Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:56:30 +0100
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--Apple-Mail=_1CF61837-4384-4883-BE97-ADC080AE15CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hello Paul, I=E2=80=99m delighted to say we are able to offer you the GCompris = videos to post on your own channels after all, and apologise for the = hiatus while we sorted this out internally.=20 At some point soon I will give you the link to the latest video like we = did last time, and look forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as YT.=20= As for your other points below (about us having an account there and a = few other things), we didn=E2=80=99t have time to address that yet, but = will consider. In the meantime, have a great Easter break! All the best, Frances > On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > On Monday, 25 March 2024 10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote: >> Hi Paul, >>=20 >> Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by my folks = again >> to see if =E2=80=98both=E2=80=99 is OK. >>=20 >> Just to be clear, as I understand it, we didn=E2=80=99t fear folk = would switch from >> YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way = around: that >> KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, so we=E2=80=99d= get the >> extra views, as it=E2=80=99s unlikely PeerTube users would also watch = it on >> Youtube. >=20 > That is correct. That said, audiences on PT are significantly smaller = than on=20 > YT and, as I explain below, you will not move the needle in any = significant way=20 > regardless of your decision. >=20 >> What=E2=80=99s your thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk = from seeing it by >> sticking to YouTube? >=20 > Definitely. There are whole swathes of the Free Software Internet = where links=20 > to YouTube are banned. And then there are the members of the public = who will=20 > not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of privacy, the=20= > annoying ads, the terrible community, etc. >=20 > The way to reach that kind of audience is through platforms like = PeerTube. >=20 > Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not suddenly going to jump = to PT=20 > just because you post there too. They are on YT because of inertia,=20 > convenience, they follow more things, they have their own channels, it = is what=20 > they know, etc. >=20 > The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are suddenly = going to=20 > lose views on YT is not based on reality and not based on evidence = either,=20 > mainly because there is none. >=20 > I can say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you = want to=20 > ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other = communities=20 > don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT shows awareness = for the=20 > principles of many users and developers. It is a bit like adding vegan = options=20 > to food served at an office party, or respecting other people's = pronouns. >=20 > You already have a KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a = PT=20 > account and link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not = verified.=20 > You should look into that). >=20 > As mentioned some time ago, I can set you up with a channel on the = KDE-and- > friends instance at https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look = similar to=20 > what you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as = anything=20 > you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human=20 > intervention. >=20 > I can then hand you the keys and you do your thing and see insights on = each=20 > video if you need it. Insights are not as comprehensive as on YT, but = are=20 > probably enough for most needs (see attached screenshot). >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Paul >=20 >=20 >=20 >>> On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Our original idea was to be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_ >>> PeerTube, >>> adding coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly = unlikely that >>> YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to watch = your >>> videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively your viewing >>> numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't have. >>=20 >> ---- >>=20 >> Frances Tait | [email protected] | Marketing and Partner = relations >> Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company >> Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322) >> KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Promotion & Communication >=20 > www: https://kde.org > Mastodon: https://floss.social/@kde > Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/ > Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity > LinkedIn: = https://www.linkedin.com/company/kde<Screenshot_20240325_123014.png> ---- Frances Tait | [email protected] | Marketing and Partner relations Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322) KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence --Apple-Mail=_1CF61837-4384-4883-BE97-ADC080AE15CB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hello = Paul,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99m delighted to say we are able to = offer you the GCompris videos to post on your own channels after all, = and apologise for the hiatus while we sorted this out = internally. </div><div><br></div><div>At some point soon I will = give you the link to the latest video like we did last time, and look = forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as = YT. </div><div><br></div><div>As for your other points below (about = us having an account there and a few other things), we didn=E2=80=99t = have time to address that yet, but will = consider.</div><div><br></div><div>In the meantime, have a great Easter = break!</div><div><br></div><div>All the = best,</div><div><br></div><div>Frances<br = id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div>On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown = <[email protected]> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>On Monday, 25 March 2024 = 10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi = Paul,<br><br>Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by = my folks again<br>to see if =E2=80=98both=E2=80=99 is OK.<br><br>Just to = be clear, as I understand it, we didn=E2=80=99t fear folk would switch = from<br>YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way = around: that<br>KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, = so we=E2=80=99d get the<br>extra views, as it=E2=80=99s unlikely = PeerTube users would also watch it = on<br>Youtube.<br></blockquote><br>That is correct. That said, audiences = on PT are significantly smaller than on <br>YT and, as I explain below, = you will not move the needle in any significant way <br>regardless of = your decision.<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">What=E2=80=99s your = thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk from seeing it = by<br>sticking to YouTube?<br></blockquote><br>Definitely. There are = whole swathes of the Free Software Internet where links <br>to YouTube = are banned. And then there are the members of the public who will = <br>not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of privacy, = the <br>annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.<br><br>The way to = reach that kind of audience is through platforms like = PeerTube.<br><br>Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not = suddenly going to jump to PT <br>just because you post there too. = They are on YT because of inertia, <br>convenience, they follow more = things, they have their own channels, it is what <br>they know, = etc.<br><br>The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are = suddenly going to <br>lose views on YT is not based on reality and not = based on evidence either, <br>mainly because there is none.<br><br>I can = say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you want to = <br>ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other = communities <br>don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT = shows awareness for the <br>principles of many users and developers. It = is a bit like adding vegan options <br>to food served at an office = party, or respecting other people's pronouns.<br><br>You already have a = KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a PT <br>account and = link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not verified. = <br>You should look into that).<br><br>As mentioned some time ago, I can = set you up with a channel on the KDE-and-<br>friends instance at = https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look similar to <br>what = you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as anything = <br>you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human = <br>intervention.<br><br>I can then hand you the keys and you do your = thing and see insights on each <br>video if you need it. Insights are = not as comprehensive as on YT, but are <br>probably enough for most = needs (see attached = screenshot).<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br><br><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul = Brown <[email protected]> wrote:<br><br>Our original idea was to = be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_<br>PeerTube,<br>adding = coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly unlikely = that<br>YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to = watch your<br>videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively = your viewing<br>numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't = have.<br></blockquote><br>----<br><br>Frances Tait | = [email protected] | Marketing and Partner = relations<br>Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group = company<br>Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA = +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)<br>KDAB - Trusted Software = Excellence<br></blockquote><br><br>-- <br>Promotion & = Communication<br><br>www: https://kde.org<br>Mastodon: = https://floss.social/@kde<br>Facebook: = https://www.facebook.com/kde/<br>Twitter: = https://twitter.com/kdecommunity<br>LinkedIn: = https://www.linkedin.com/company/kde<span = id=3D"cid:4B1B2C6A-2753-4E2D-BA5B-BB5319D450D1"><Screenshot_20240325_12= 3014.png></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div dir=3D"auto" = style=3D"text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div = dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;"><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><br>----<br><br>Frances Tait | [email protected] = | Marketing and Partner relations<br>Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, = a KDAB Group company</div><div style=3D"text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;">Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA = +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)<br>KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence</div><div = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: = normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br></div><div = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: = normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = text-decoration: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: = space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br></div></div></div>= </div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div> <br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_1CF61837-4384-4883-BE97-ADC080AE15CB--