Re: GCompris Video 3

"frances.tait" <[email protected]> Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:56:30 +0100
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Hello Paul,

I=E2=80=99m delighted to say we are able to offer you the GCompris =
videos to post on your own channels after all, and apologise for the =
hiatus while we sorted this out internally.=20

At some point soon I will give you the link to the latest video like we =
did last time, and look forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as YT.=20=


As for your other points below (about us having an account there and a =
few other things), we didn=E2=80=99t have time to address that yet, but =
will consider.

In the meantime, have a great Easter break!

All the best,

Frances

> On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Monday, 25 March 2024 10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
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>> Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by my folks =
again
>> to see if =E2=80=98both=E2=80=99 is OK.
>>=20
>> Just to be clear, as I understand it, we didn=E2=80=99t fear folk =
would switch from
>> YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way =
around: that
>> KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, so we=E2=80=99d=
 get the
>> extra views, as it=E2=80=99s unlikely PeerTube users would also watch =
it on
>> Youtube.
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> That is correct. That said, audiences on PT are significantly smaller =
than on=20
> YT and, as I explain below, you will not move the needle in any =
significant way=20
> regardless of your decision.
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>> What=E2=80=99s your thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk =
from seeing it by
>> sticking to YouTube?
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> Definitely. There are whole swathes of the Free Software Internet =
where links=20
> to YouTube are banned. And then there are the members of the public =
who will=20
> not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of privacy, the=20=

> annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.
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> The way to reach that kind of audience is through platforms like =
PeerTube.
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> Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not suddenly going to jump =
to  PT=20
> just because you post there too. They are on YT because of inertia,=20
> convenience, they follow more things, they have their own channels, it =
is what=20
> they know, etc.
>=20
> The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are suddenly =
going to=20
> lose views on YT is not based on reality and not based on evidence =
either,=20
> mainly because there is none.
>=20
> I can say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you =
want to=20
> ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other =
communities=20
> don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT shows awareness =
for the=20
> principles of many users and developers. It is a bit like adding vegan =
options=20
> to food served at an office party, or respecting other people's =
pronouns.
>=20
> You already have a KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a =
PT=20
> account and link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not =
verified.=20
> You should look into that).
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> As mentioned some time ago, I can set you up with a channel on the =
KDE-and-
> friends instance at  https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look =
similar to=20
> what you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as =
anything=20
> you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human=20
> intervention.
>=20
> I can then hand you the keys and you do your thing and see insights on =
each=20
> video if you need it. Insights are not as comprehensive as on YT, but =
are=20
> probably enough for most needs (see attached screenshot).
>=20
> Cheers
>=20
> Paul
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>>> On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Our original idea was to be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_
>>> PeerTube,
>>> adding coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly =
unlikely that
>>> YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to watch =
your
>>> videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively your viewing
>>> numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't have.
>>=20
>> ----
>>=20
>> Frances Tait | [email protected] | Marketing and Partner =
relations
>> Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
>> Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
>> KDAB - Trusted Software Excellence
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> --=20
> Promotion & Communication
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> www: https://kde.org
> Mastodon: https://floss.social/@kde
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kde/
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/kdecommunity
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Frances Tait | [email protected] | Marketing and Partner relations
Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA +1-866-777-KDAB(5322)
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hello =
Paul,<div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99m delighted to say we are able to =
offer you the GCompris videos to post on your own channels after all, =
and apologise for the hiatus while we sorted this out =
internally.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>At some point soon I will =
give you the link to the latest video like we did last time, and look =
forward to seeing it on peer tube as well as =
YT.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>As for your other points below (about =
us having an account there and a few other things), we didn=E2=80=99t =
have time to address that yet, but will =
consider.</div><div><br></div><div>In the meantime, have a great Easter =
break!</div><div><br></div><div>All the =
best,</div><div><br></div><div>Frances<br =
id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On 25 Mar 2024, at 12:51, Paul Brown =
&lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>On Monday, 25 March 2024 =
10:35:47 CET frances.tait wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">Hi =
Paul,<br><br>Thanks for your understanding. I will nonetheless run it by =
my folks again<br>to see if =E2=80=98both=E2=80=99 is OK.<br><br>Just to =
be clear, as I understand it, we didn=E2=80=99t fear folk would switch =
from<br>YouTube to PeerTube, rather I think the hope was the other way =
around: that<br>KDE folk would watch it on Youtube instead of PeerTube, =
so we=E2=80=99d get the<br>extra views, as it=E2=80=99s unlikely =
PeerTube users would also watch it =
on<br>Youtube.<br></blockquote><br>That is correct. That said, audiences =
on PT are significantly smaller than on <br>YT and, as I explain below, =
you will not move the needle in any significant way <br>regardless of =
your decision.<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">What=E2=80=99s your =
thoughts on that? Do you think we exclude folk from seeing it =
by<br>sticking to YouTube?<br></blockquote><br>Definitely. There are =
whole swathes of the Free Software Internet where links <br>to YouTube =
are banned. And then there are the members of the public who will =
<br>not watch YT out of principle, because of the invasion of privacy, =
the <br>annoying ads, the terrible community, etc.<br><br>The way to =
reach that kind of audience is through platforms like =
PeerTube.<br><br>Conversely, people who follow you on YT are not =
suddenly going to jump to &nbsp;PT <br>just because you post there too. =
They are on YT because of inertia, <br>convenience, they follow more =
things, they have their own channels, it is what <br>they know, =
etc.<br><br>The idea that just because you post to PeerTube, you are =
suddenly going to <br>lose views on YT is not based on reality and not =
based on evidence either, <br>mainly because there is none.<br><br>I can =
say that posting to PeerTube is probably a smart PR move if you want to =
<br>ingratiate yourself with Free Software community members. Other =
communities <br>don't care and will be fine with YT, but posting to PT =
shows awareness for the <br>principles of many users and developers. It =
is a bit like adding vegan options <br>to food served at an office =
party, or respecting other people's pronouns.<br><br>You already have a =
KDAB Mastodon account, the next step is to have a PT <br>account and =
link both. (By the way, your KDAB Mastodon account is not verified. =
<br>You should look into that).<br><br>As mentioned some time ago, I can =
set you up with a channel on the KDE-and-<br>friends instance at =
&nbsp;https://tube.kockatoo.org . I can make it look similar to <br>what =
you have on YT and make it so it virtually manages itself, as anything =
<br>you post to YT will automatically be replicated on PT without human =
<br>intervention.<br><br>I can then hand you the keys and you do your =
thing and see insights on each <br>video if you need it. Insights are =
not as comprehensive as on YT, but are <br>probably enough for most =
needs (see attached =
screenshot).<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Paul<br><br><br><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 22 Mar 2024, at 19:58, Paul =
Brown &lt;[email protected]&gt; wrote:<br><br>Our original idea was to =
be able to give you coverage on YT _AND_<br>PeerTube,<br>adding =
coverage, not subtracting from it. Since it is highly unlikely =
that<br>YouTube viewers will go out of the way to go to PeerTube to =
watch your<br>videos we were not expecting this to affect negatively =
your viewing<br>numbers -- and indeed it wouldn't =
have.<br></blockquote><br>----<br><br>Frances Tait | =
[email protected] | Marketing and Partner =
relations<br>Klar=C3=A4lvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group =
company<br>Tel: Sweden (HQ) +46-563-540090, USA =
+1-866-777-KDAB(5322)<br>KDAB - Trusted Software =
Excellence<br></blockquote><br><br>-- <br>Promotion &amp; =
Communication<br><br>www: https://kde.org<br>Mastodon: =
https://floss.social/@kde<br>Facebook: =
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