Re: [Plasma] X11 Support
Mike Diehl <[email protected]> Mon, 1 Dec 2025 12:28:09 -0500
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I currently use Barrier (https://github.com/debauchee/barrier) which has
been forked as Input Leap (https://github.com/input-leap/input-leap)
I understand that Barrier doesn't work under Wayland. (I couldn't get
it to work at all)
I also note that Input Leap doesn't support clipboard sharing under Wayland.
I'm probably not alone in using this software, so migrating completely
away from Xorg is a non-starter for me.
Thanks for all you do,
Mike.
On 11/27/25 09:43, Valder N. wrote:
> Good afternoon, dear developers of the KDE Plasma 6 desktop environment.
>
> Could you please clarify the situation with the news
> <https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-future/>
> about discontinuing support for the X11 protocol in favor of
> supporting only the Wayland protocol starting with version 6.8?
>
> I hope you understand that even according to the data provided in the
> article, X11-session is used by 30% of active users. In reality, this
> number is significantly higher, and to verify this, you can refer to
> the statistics on the use and downloads of individual software
> packages in the repositories of active distributions. However, even
> 30% (!) should be more than enough to justify the need to continue
> supporting this protocol.
>
> Perhaps in the future (but apparently not soon!), Wayland will replace
> X11, but this should be done in an evolutionary manner, rather than by
> cutting off support for what currently works and provides the best
> performance.
>
> In particular, in tests on virtual machines, the use of the Wayland
> protocol leads to increased RAM consumption, as well as memory leaks
> over time. This is not observed in X11 sessions. The “speed” of the
> working environment and its “responsiveness” in X11-session is also
> clearly noticeable.
>
> In this regard, we kindly request that the entire community that
> regularly uses the KDE Plasma desktop and regularly uses X11-session
> continue to support X11-session and not follow the path of GNOME.
>
> I sincerely hope for your conscientiousness and responsiveness.
>
>
>
> With deep respect,
> User who has been using KDE Plasma for over 20 years
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<p>I currently use Barrier (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/debauchee/barrier">https://github.com/debauchee/barrier</a>)
which has been forked as Input Leap
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/input-leap/input-leap">https://github.com/input-leap/input-leap</a>)</p>
<p>I understand that Barrier doesn't work under Wayland. (I
couldn't get it to work at all)</p>
<p>I also note that Input Leap doesn't support clipboard sharing
under Wayland.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I'm probably not alone in using this software, so migrating
completely away from Xorg is a non-starter for me.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Thanks for all you do,</p>
<p>Mike.<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/27/25 09:43, Valder N. wrote:<br>
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<div>Good afternoon, dear developers of the KDE Plasma 6 desktop
environment.<br>
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<div>Could you please clarify the situation with the news <<a
href="https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-future/"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-future/</a>>
about discontinuing support for the X11 protocol in favor of
supporting only the Wayland protocol starting with version
6.8?<br>
</div>
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</span></div>
<div>I hope you understand that even according to the data
provided in the article, X11-session is used by 30% of active
users. In reality, this number is significantly higher, and to
verify this, you can refer to the statistics on the use and
downloads of individual software packages in the repositories
of active distributions. However, even 30% (!) should be more
than enough to justify the need to continue supporting this
protocol.<br>
<br>
Perhaps in the future (but apparently not soon!), Wayland will
replace X11, but this should be done in an evolutionary
manner, rather than by cutting off support for what currently
works and provides the best performance.<br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div>In particular, in tests on virtual machines, the use of the
Wayland protocol leads to increased RAM consumption, as well
as memory leaks over time. This is not observed in X11
sessions. The “speed” of the working environment and its
“responsiveness” in X11-session is also clearly noticeable.<br>
</div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div>In this regard, we kindly request that the entire community
that regularly uses the KDE Plasma desktop and regularly uses
X11-session continue to support X11-session and not follow the
path of GNOME.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I sincerely hope for your conscientiousness and
responsiveness.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>With deep respect,<br>
User who has been using KDE Plasma for over 20 years</div>
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