Re: Export menu is a bit of a mess. (Mockups)
Carl Simpson <[email protected]> Fri, 4 Feb 2011 19:39:14 +0000
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--===============5278714801855992616== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdb0c87785c049b7a09cb --0015175cdb0c87785c049b7a09cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I appreciate the time taken to reply to this. When I can muster the energy= , I'll contact that mailing list you supplied with suggestions for plugin names, to see if there's any agreement with my thoughts there. The sharing toolbar button is cool, and I really like that "last used" thing. Very clever idea. In the meantime, if nothing else can be done, can't you at least display them in alphabetical order? ^-^;; 2011/2/4 Aur=E9lien G=E2teau <[email protected]> > Hi Carl, > > Thanks for the time you spent on these mockups. > > On 26/01/2011 23:48, Carl Simpson wrote: > > The menu items in the export menu are a bit ugly and hard to use, I > think. > > There's everything, all at once, and it's badly grouped and poorly > labelled. > > > > First, a note on terminology. "Export" is a bad word to use in menus. > How > > is "exporting" to Flickr related to "exporting" to another computer? H= ow > > are both of those related to the common practice of "exporting to PDF" = or > > "Exporting to HTML"? > > > When referring to putting data online with a web service, I recommend > using > > the verb "upload". When transferring data between physical entities li= ke > > computers and IM contacts, I recommend "send". iPods have always used > the > > word "sync". > > There is an important technical limitation you need to be aware of: the > Export menu is populated by plugins, which are shared between Gwenview, > digiKam and a few other applications. As such, Gwenview does not control > the content of the items which are going to be displayed in this menu. > This makes it difficult to implement the menu layout you suggest. > > To get the labels of the plugins fixed, you need to contact the plugin > authors. You can reach them on the KDE Imaging mailing list, which you > can find here: > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-imaging > > > Now, a note on things I didn't understand from what I saw, and so did n= ot > > include in these mockups. > > > > What "Export to HTML" does I don't know. If it outputs an HTML documen= t, > > then I'd have a menu item that says "Embed into an HTML document=85". = If > not, > > you'll have to come up with something for it, if you like these ideas > > othewise. > > There is no such concept of "embedding" images in an HTML document. What > this plugin does is producing a set of HTML files which let you browse > through your images. You can then upload these files on a static web > server or burn them on a cd or dvd. > > > Regarding the simplification of the menu you propose with the "Set > default upload service" dialog: In an attempt to simplify > sharing/exporting contents, upcoming Gwenview (part of KDE SC 4.6) comes > with a "Share" toolbar button. You can learn more about it here: > > http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/easily-share-images-with-gwenview= / > > Aur=E9lien > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server= 's > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > rules translate into the virtual world? > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > _______________________________________________ > Gwenview-general mailing list > Gwenview-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwenview-general > --0015175cdb0c87785c049b7a09cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I appreciate the time taken to reply to this.=A0 When I can muster the ener= gy, I'll contact that mailing list you supplied with suggestions for pl= ugin names, to see if there's any agreement with my thoughts there.<br> <br>The sharing toolbar button is cool, and I really like that "last u= sed" thing.=A0 Very clever idea.<br><br>In the meantime, if nothing el= se can be done, can't you at least display them in alphabetical order?= =A0 ^-^;;<br> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/2/4 Aur=E9lien G=E2teau <span dir=3D"lt= r"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">aurelie= [email protected]</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde= r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Carl,<br> <br> Thanks for the time you spent on these mockups.<br> <div><br> On 26/01/2011 23:48, Carl Simpson wrote:<br> > The menu items in the export menu are a bit ugly and hard to use, I th= ink.<br> > There's everything, all at once, and it's badly grouped and po= orly labelled.<br> ><br> > First, a note on terminology. =A0"Export" is a bad word to u= se in menus. =A0How<br> > is "exporting" to Flickr related to "exporting" to= another computer? =A0How<br> > are both of those related to the common practice of "exporting to= PDF" or<br> > "Exporting to HTML"?<br> <br> > When referring to putting data online with a web service, I recommend = using<br> > the verb "upload". =A0When transferring data between physica= l entities like<br> > computers and IM contacts, I recommend "send". =A0iPods have= always used the<br> > word "sync".<br> <br> </div>There is an important technical limitation you need to be aware of: t= he<br> Export menu is populated by plugins, which are shared between Gwenview,<br> digiKam and a few other applications. As such, Gwenview does not control<br= > the content of the items which are going to be displayed in this menu.<br> This makes it difficult to implement the menu layout you suggest.<br> <br> To get the labels of the plugins fixed, you need to contact the plugin<br> authors. You can reach them on the KDE Imaging mailing list, which you<br> can find here:<br> <br> <a href=3D"https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-imaging" target=3D"_bl= ank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-imaging</a><br> <div><br> > Now, a note on things I didn't understand from what I saw, and so = did not<br> > include in these mockups.<br> ><br> > What "Export to HTML" does I don't know. =A0If it output= s an HTML document,<br> > then I'd have a menu item that says "Embed into an HTML docum= ent=85". =A0If not,<br> > you'll have to come up with something for it, if you like these id= eas<br> > othewise.<br> <br> </div>There is no such concept of "embedding" images in an HTML d= ocument. What<br> this plugin does is producing a set of HTML files which let you browse<br> through your images. You can then upload these files on a static web<br> server or burn them on a cd or dvd.<br> <br> <br> Regarding the simplification of the menu you propose with the "Set<br> default upload service" dialog: In an attempt to simplify<br> sharing/exporting contents, upcoming Gwenview (part of KDE SC 4.6) comes<br= > with a "Share" toolbar button. You can learn more about it here:<= br> <br> <a href=3D"http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/easily-share-images-with= -gwenview/" target=3D"_blank">http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/11/19/easil= y-share-images-with-gwenview/</a><br> <br> Aur=E9lien<br> <br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---<br> The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources<b= r> and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server&#= 39;s<br> connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these<br> rules translate into the virtual world?<br> <a href=3D"http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb" target=3D"_blank">http://p= .sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> Gwenview-general mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Gwenview-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org" target=3D"_blank"= >Gwenview-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwenview-general" t= arget=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gwenview-gene= ral</a><br> </blockquote></div><br> --0015175cdb0c87785c049b7a09cb-- --===============5278714801855992616== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources and provide services. 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