Re: Review Request 128715: Bug 205157 - two clicks on file to rename

> On Sept. 4, 2016, 12:18 p.m., Emmanuel Pescosta wrote:
> > Thanks for the patch!
> > 
> > I don't think that we should add another option for this, because it makes the settings dialog
> > more complex, it increases the number of possible configs to test, it only makes sense when
> > single click + inline renaming is enabled.
> > 
> > What if we always enable it when the options 'single click' and 'inline renaming' are enabled?
> > 
> > Please add the usability group to this discussion :)
> 
> Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
>     Usability team agrees :)
>     No additional option, activate it automatically when single-click and inline-renaming are activated
> 
> funky bomber wrote:
>     Hello,
>     
>     This feature doesn't seem to have been implemented yet (as of Applications 16.12), so I thought I might give my 2c as well. 
>     
>     
>     I have a hard time understanding how this feature is supposed to work if (as you say) it should require "single-click" to be activated. Why is that so?
>     In my understanding, an active "Single-click" means that when the user clicks once on a file, this file opens or executes immediately. This is not what we want.
>     
>     The "two clicks to rename" functionality makes sense only when the "Double-click" option is activated:
>     1) One click on the file (or folder) to highlight it.
>     2) (Brief pause)  <-- (The user can already set the "Double click interval" to whichever value suits them so that we don't trigger the double-click by accident.)
>     3) Second click on the file (or folder) to make the text editable.
>     
>     Pretty much the same as in this video:
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52BSGNY9DQ0
>     
>     
>     In regards to the complexity thing, I understand that each option that is added creates complexity. 
>     However it is the best way to isolate this behavior from users who may not want it. No size fits all.
>     And I think that this functionality is kind of a big deal. It deserves it's own setting. If not for anything else, 
>     then just so that people can find it and disable it easily if they don't want it.
>     
>     Hope to see this properly implemented in Applications 17.04!
>     
>     Cheers!
> 
> Anthony Fieroni wrote:
>     It should implement pretty simple, when user click over a selected item (it can be select more than one) rename is activated. Simple and useful, but yes only in double click branch
> 
> Kåre Särs wrote:
>     Having this in the "double-click" mode breaks the "Items are only selected with a single-click". It would have to be some kind of slower double click to not introduce a bunch of unwanted file renames. I find the in-line-rename found in Windows totally annoying. Selecting a file that happened to be selected already starts rename. What is wrong with explicitly pressing F2 or right-clicking the file?
>     
>     And I have a bit hard time to understand how it could work in single-click mode when the file should be opened not renamed on single-click.

@Kåre Särs

So, the idea here is that this feature should be enabled ONLY when "Double-click" is enabled. 
This feature should be greyed out and disabled when "Single-click" is enabled.

In regards to finding the in-line-rename in Windows "annoying" as you say, I'll concede that not everyone likes it. "Slow-clickers" hate it, but I'm not one of them.

However there comes a point when someone just takes a step back and just looks at the facts: 
Windows has this feature
MacOS has this feature

The two most important (market-wise) desktop environments/ecosystems implement this feature. Let that sink in.

And in contrast to the Windows implementation I'm suggesting that it should be strictly OPTIONAL.


- funky


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On Sept. 5, 2016, 10:29 p.m., Andreas Krutzler wrote:
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> (Updated Sept. 5, 2016, 10:29 p.m.)
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> Review request for Dolphin and KDE Usability.
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> Repository: dolphin
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> Description
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> Bug 205157 - two clicks on file to rename
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> Diffs
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>   src/kitemviews/kitemlistcontroller.h b8a93ed 
>   src/kitemviews/kitemlistcontroller.cpp 1c86ff0 
>   src/kitemviews/kitemlistview.h 9adf9f8 
>   src/kitemviews/kitemlistview.cpp df65399 
>   src/views/dolphinview.h 0b0d819 
>   src/views/dolphinview.cpp 4105628 
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128715/diff/
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> Testing
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> Thanks,
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> Andreas Krutzler
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