Re: Problems with filters (AGAIN!)

On 24/12/11 12:31, Martin (KDE) wrote:
> Am Samstag, 24. Dezember 2011, 08:38:01 schrieb Anne Wilson:
>> On 12/23/2011 08:51 PM, Martin (KDE) wrote:
>>> - tell KMail to quit picking up my POP mail and stop KMail
>>>
>>>> - setup Cyrus
>>>>
>>>>    . point it at my ~/Mail (all maildir)
>>>>    . add my KMail filters
>>>>
>>>> - start KMail and reconfigure it to use my new Cyrus
>>
>> Basically, that's almost right.  I use Dovecot, but I imagine Cyrus is
>> similar.
>
> The main difference with cyrus and dovecot is that cyrus is always completely
> seperated from users. You can configure dovecot to use a mail storage in users
> home folder. This is not possible wit cyrus. And dropping mails in cyrus
> storage is not allowed. This has to be done with either lmtp protocol or the
> cyrus deliver program.
>
> So there are several flows possible with dovecot:
>
> - fetchmail/getmail
> - deliver (dovecots deliver process includes sieve filtering)
> - dovecot imap
>
> or more complex (if you have no spam checking on your provider side):
> - fetchmail/getmail
> - procmail (filtering, spam and virus checking)
> - dovecot
>
> or full featured (that's the one I use - I don't need fetchmail/getmail as I
> have set up my own mail server)
> - postfix (initial checks)
> - amavisd (spam and virus check)
> - postfix (final delivery via lmtp)
> - cyrus lmtp (includes sieve filtering)
> - cyrus imap
>
> All have advantages and disadvantages. I started more than ten years ago with
> the second solution (with cyrus instead of dovecot) and slowly moved to the
> final solution (took almost five years).
>
> Martin
>
>> You use Fetchmail to get your mail in, procmail or similar to
>> filter it into your folders, and Dovecot to serve it up to whatever you
>> use to read it.  Then you point your client to the server address -
>> which can be on the same machine as you read, or a different one.  One
>> added advantage is that you can read your mail when away from home if
>> you choose.
>>
>> There's plenty of documentation online but ask if you need help.  On
>> UserBase, too, you'll find a section on making Bogofilter work within
>> procmail, so your spam filtering is largely taken care of at the same
>> time.  Good luck.
>>
>> Btw, I agree that you must take care to use normal IMAP, not
>> disconnected IMAP.  It saves a lot of problems.
>>
>> When I was first setting it up, I set it up to fetch from my least used
>> address until I was certain that it was working properly.  Then again,
>> if you don't mind some duplicates while you are testing, fetchmail has a
>> --keep option.
I have to ask - why?

I only use pop3 accounts, I keep/save what I consider important in 
KMail(2) - I see no need to locally cache mail (as I understand it) and 
then fetch it?

My filters work (spam took some extra tinkering in KMail2), my sorting 
works for me. So why the whole extra chain?
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