Re: dimap, where are mails stored locally and how to back up?

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On 01/05/2012 11:06 AM, Martin (KDE) wrote:
> Am 05.01.2012 11:43, schrieb Anne Wilson:
>> On 01/05/2012 10:16 AM, Martin (KDE) wrote:
>>> Am 05.01.2012 10:49, schrieb Anne Wilson:
>>>> On 01/04/2012 06:03 PM, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
>>>>> You seem to be using IMAP. Where do you see a problem with 
>>>>> migrating to another client?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The account type formerly known as disconnected IMAP is 
>>>>> nowadays just a subtype of IMAP (with cache policy "cache 
>>>>> everything"). I'm not sure whether Akonadi is supposed to 
>>>>> store everything in its database or whether the mail
>>>>> contents is supposed to be stored in files.
>>>>> 
>>>> FWIW, I run IMAP.  I set up Thunderbird by simply pointing
>>>> it to ~/Maildir, just as I did with KMail. No problem
>>>> whatsoever. I did have to install several add-ons to get the
>>>> functionality I'm used to in KMail, but everything I needed
>>>> was available.
>>> 
>>> Hm
>>> 
>>> Anne, are you using imap and maildir (two different accounts)
>>> or are you accessing the maildir you are using with your
>>> dovecot server in parallel with thunderbird?. The second case
>>> is not the intended one.
>>> 
>> Martin, maildir is the mail storage format, not a different type 
>> of account.  Natively I believe Thunderbird uses mbox, the
>> "other" storage type, but since you use IMAP that's not relevant.
>> All my mail goes to my dovecot server.  Thunderbird uses IMAP
>> access to read what's on the server - but it could be any IMAP
>> server, including one on an ISP's hardware.  There's no issue of
>> parallel access - this is plain and simple imap access.  I don't
>> pop any mail.
> 
> Anne
> 
> that was not my point. I use imap since about ten years now but I 
> never pointed thunderbird (or any other mailclient) to my local 
> maildir storage.
> 
> One way to set up dovecot is to use maildir folder in users home 
> directory as storage. With this you can access the same mail by 
> either using the imap server (indirect - account A) or a maildir 
> account pointing to ~/maildir (direct - account B) or both.
> 
> You wrote that you pointed thunderbird to ~/maildir. Imho this is 
> direct mail access without using the imap server. That was my
> point. With an imap server the underlying mail storage is
> transparent to the user, so no need to point to ~/maildir. I just
> was a little confused.
> 
I think there is a misunderstanding.  Dovecot is not on my laptop, where
I normally read.  It is on my LAN.  You are right in that I wasn't
clear.  TBird on my laptop asks for mail from 192.168.0.xx.  That's
where dovecot serves up the mail.  When reading locally on the server
box, something I don't often do, but occasionally, I point to ~/Maildir.

Sorry for not being clearer in the first place.

Anne



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