Re: My impressions about the current state of KDE-PIM

On 08/01/12 07:24, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sunday, January 08,2012 12:32:09 PM Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
>>
>> The status now is, that I cannot open any existing mails, no matter in which
>> folder they are. KMail only tells "Retrieving folder contents - please wait",
>> and is doing so for hours until I gave up.
>>
>
> Since you are on Gentoo:
>
>     User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.39-gentoo-r3; KDE/4.6.2; x86_64; ; )
>
> here's what I've been running for a week now:
>
>     User-Agent: KMail/4.7.3 (Linux/3.1.6-gentoo; KDE/4.7.3; x86_64; ; )
>
> Assuming that you've read Gentoo KMail2 migration guide, this is what worked
> for me (took a while to figure all out but I've had no issues since then):
>
> 1. Export your KMail filters
>
> 2. Run in this sequence (taken from my bash history):
>
>     Note:
>        One thing that I'd suggest is before restarting 'akonadi' (line 45354
>        below) make sure 'virtuoso-t' is stopped and if it is not you can
>        properly shut it down with (read [1] first)::
>
>           45369  2012-01-03,11:51:27:  cat /tmp/virtuoso_T31639.ini | grep "Port"
>           45370  2012-01-03,11:51:30:  isql-v -H localhost -S 1112 -U dba -P dba -K
>
>     So here are the commands [2]::
>
>        45348  2012-01-03,13:21:08:  akonadictl status
>        45349  2012-01-03,13:21:10:  akonadictl stop
>        45350  2012-01-03,13:21:53:  akonadictl status
>        45351  2012-01-03,13:21:58:  qdbus org.kde.NepomukServer /nepomukserver org.kde.NepomukServer.quit
>        45352  2012-01-03,13:23:06:  mv ~/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/ ~/temp/
>        45353  2012-01-03,13:26:57:  akonadictl status
>        45354  2012-01-03,13:27:01:  akonadictl start
>
> 3. Check you KMail filters, import if necessary.
>
> 4. Add a new Address Book pointing to your current file/directory [1]
>
>
> Read [3], [4] and [5] to better understand what's going on.
>
>
> [1] http://kdeatopensuse.wordpress.com/2011/11/09/debugging-nepomukvirtuosos-cpu-usage/
> [2] http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdepim-users&m=132216525522932&w=2
> [3] http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting
> [4] http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/nepomuk-in-kmail-2/
> [5] http://blogs.kde.org/node/4503
>
>>
>> On the other hand,  ordinary users do not care about all this. They do not
>> know anything about akonadi and its resources, do not care where all this
>> stuff is stored on the hard drive and whether there is a database in the
>> background or not. Bothering users with all that is simply asked too much of
>> them, they lack the background knowledge. Even users that have advanced
>> knowledge need several hours to get the information and understand how it
>> works, time they simply do not want to spend. Such things *have* to work, and
>> if they don't, they have to be considered to be broken.
>>
>
> It is because opensource is not only a bunch of software, it's a community
> where you can learn, help and give back. Agreed that things must just work and
> sometimes things will break, this is all part of development but admittedly we
> do better than Microsoft or Apple.
>
>> I really hope that
>> this will be improved in the future, since it forces me now to migrate back
>> to pim-4.4, and stay there until a really working and stable version is
>> abailable, likely preventing me from installing further KDE-updates;
>
> See above my KDE and kernel versions. Update first to a decent kernel and gcc
> then post back if after following the above steps and reading through articles
> you are still having issues.
>
>> Since I am definitely not the only one
>> having problems, I strongly advise the developers to take that absolutely
>> serious, otherwise they will develop for just themselves in the future.
>>
>
> You are running tons of apps that in other worlds would cost you a fortune and
> they will not just work out of the box. Before making such strong statements
> consider helping out.
>
While I agree with you on "tons of apps" statement you also prove his 
point - your advice list to get it working is way beyond what "non IT 
pros" would and should have to go through to make KDEPIM work.
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