Re: KMail not updating source folders on move operations unless restarted

Hi O. Sinclair,

On Thursday 11 April 2013 18:16:17 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> On Thursday 11 April 2013 18:12:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Today I migrated my PIM setup from KDEPIM 1 from KDE SC 4.4.11 to KDEPIM
> > 2 from KDE SC 4.10.2 on my Debian Sid system.
> 
> […]
> 
> > But the more important thing is:
> > 
> > Whenever I move a mail or click on the icon for marking a mail spam via
> > a
> > manuel filter which moves it to the spam folder, the mail does not
> > disappear from the source folder of the move operation until I restart
> > KMail.
> 
> Same goes for marking messages as read.
> 
> KMail only picks up the change after I restart it.
> 
> Thus it applies all changes, but doesn´t display them in the source folder
> unless being restarted.

didn´t you reply to this?

After receiving mails today Akonadi / MySQL / Virtuoso used up between 2 and 
4 locical cores of this Intel Sandybridge i5 mobile CPU. Since I wanted to 
reply to you, I thought I restart it and see whether that gets it into a 
sane state. Then it complained it wasn´t able to delete some mails and well: 
Now I do not see your mail anymore.

Okay, it seems that restarting the Akonadi server while it is doing 
something leads to data loss. I forced a re-index of the folder and it still 
doesn´t appear:

martin@merkaba:~/.Mail/.Lichtvoll.directory/.KDE.directory/pim-users-ml/cur> 
grep "KMail not updating source folders" *
1365696861.R215.merkaba:2,RS:Subject: [kdepim-users] KMail not updating 
source folders on move operations
1365697032.R861.merkaba:2,S:Subject: Re: [kdepim-users] KMail not updating 
source folders on move

Okay, reporting this as a bug as well, after having reported:

[Akonadi] [Bug 318224] New: Tries to insert existing entries into database
https://bugs.kde.org/318224


On behalf of the subject: KMail now reacts to changes in folders.

Okay, there we go from the message pasted from list archive:


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> On 11/04/2013 18:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 April 2013 18:12:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> Today I migrated my PIM setup from KDEPIM 1 from KDE SC 4.4.11 to 
> >> KDEPIM 2
> >> from KDE SC 4.10.2 on my Debian Sid system.
> > […]
> >> But the more important thing is:
> >>
> >> Whenever I move a mail or click on the icon for marking a mail spam via 
> >> a
> >> manuel filter which moves it to the spam folder, the mail does not
> >> disappear from the source folder of the move operation until I restart
> >> KMail.
> > 
> > Same goes for marking messages as read.
> > 
> > KMail only picks up the change after I restart it.
> > 
> > Thus it applies all changes, but doesn´t display them in the source 
> > folder 
> > unless being restarted.
> > 
> I see this sometimes too, there is no real "pattern" to it except for
> filtering being involved (btw CRM114 works just fine for me, I also use
> Spambayes to really harden the spamfiltering). The devs are aware, I
> have discussed this on their mailing list.

Okay. Thanks. Then I read on there.
 
> No solution just yet though, it is "mildly irritating" to me, not a
> dealbreaker.

I found it quite irritating at first.

> The autocompletion of addresses broke from 4.10.1 to 4.10.2, the bug is
> known and a fix has been committed to 4.10.3 so be patient a few weeks
> and it should work again.
> 
> I use this workaround but it does not seem to work for everyone:
> In folder HOME/.kde/share/config there is a file
> "kpimcompletionorder". Add these 2 lines:
> [General]
> UseNepomuk=true
> 
> restart KMail and hopefully completion works (you get more suggestions
> than before) and so does Groups
> 
> Whatever you do - do not set the value to "false", even Dolphin
> stopped working for unknown reasons

Okay. Thanks. I think I read something like this on kdepim mailing list.

But now I report the data loss bug. In hindsight I understand that 
restarting akonadi to get it responsive again wasn´t such a good idea, but 
it shall IMHO never lead to data loss. Wherever Akonadi stops it should pick 
up after restart.

I may be able to get the mails back, if I find out how to recent the POP3 
last mail counter to something before. They should still be on the server.

Thanks,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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