Re: How actually to migrate?

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On 21/04/2013 17:23, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 21. April 2013 schrieb O. Sinclair:
>> On 20/04/2013 19:43, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>> Am Samstag, 20. April 2013 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
>>>> Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 schrieb O. Sinclair:
>>>>> On 17/04/2013 10:42, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>> […]
>>> 
>>>> I was about to try to migrate again to KDEPIM 2 as of 4.10.2 
>>>> today. But after some tries with the migrator I was sooo
>>>> puzzled as on how to migrate, I just gave up again. I redid
>>>> my BTRFS filesystem before and maybe it was just too much for
>>>> one day, but still I found: I do not know in what way to
>>>> migrate.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Use the migrator? But then it uses a mixedmaildir resource
>>>> and folder order is strange.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) Use one maildir resource and let it synchronize with my 
>>>> ~/Mail?
>>>> 
>>>> 3) Use one maildir resource per account and let each one 
>>>> synchronize with the account maildir?
>>>> 
>>>> 4) Or is this synchronization triggering with existing
>>>> maildirs from KMail 1 completely way off, and I better import
>>>> those maildirs into an existing "Local Folders" resource of
>>>> KMail 2?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That said on each try to migrate and I got such many pop ups 
>>>> about invalid folder settings and on calenders also missing
>>>> kcal entries and what not, that I do not feel too confident.
>>>> And this time the Akonadi and Nepomuk stuff has been on an
>>>> Ext4 filesystem.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am willing to try again, but I really like to have a plan,
>>>> a clear picture on how the migration is going to work. I
>>>> didn´t found any clear instruction on userbase.kde.org.
>>> 
>>> Well there is something on:
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/OneiricOcelot/Final/Kubuntu/Kmail2
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I get more and more the impression, that I better import my
>>> old mails from the KMail ~/Mail folder than to have maildir
>>> resource synchronize with it directly. I thought the maildir
>>> resource would work if I made sure that no mbox files are left
>>> in the ~/Mail folder. I made sure about that. But maybe there
>>> are other subtile differences that might cause data loss?
>> 
>> Well, as far as I can now remember (this was some years ago) I
>> moved my maildir directories to a separate location, started with
>> a fresh (as in empty) KMail installation, recreated my accounts
>> and imported my mail folders using the KMail importer. Had very
>> problems, this was actually how Kubuntu recommended you do it
>> back then as the migrator had known problems.
>> 
>> Had to recreate filters and so on but all in all no big (bug)
>> issues.
>> 
>> So yes, I recommend that as it worked for me and gave few
>> problems. Nothing near what you seem to get when you try the
>> methods you outline.
> 
> Well, I think I will try that way, cause the other way of creating
> maildir resources and point them to old KMail 1 maildirs, which may
> still be special, although I moved all mbox files in it to
> elsewhere, may have created subtile issues.
> 
> The import way I can be sure I have real KMail 2 / Akonadi
> maildirs.
> 
> Did you redo *all* the filter rules? I imported them last time
> which seemed to work quite fine. But maybe there have been issues
> with that as well…
> 
> I´d love to be able to just have it upgrade seamlessly.
> 
> This is anything else than seamless right now.
> 
> I wonder what the casual user would be doing with this.
> 
Yes I recreated all filters eventually (as I recall, this was as noted
a while ago in my case). The filtering has been remade somewhere
around 4.8 and the existing filters became erratic. Currently all
filters seem to work, there is a bug with mail being moved by filters.
The "new mail" indicator does not always indicate the mail that was
moved.

And as for "casual users".. well I keep them on Thunderbird in all
honesty. Sadly. Just as my dear SO prefer Picasa to Digikam.
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