Re: Where are local mails?

Vojtěch Zeisek <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:18:51 +0100
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.kde.users.pim
Organization	openSUSE GNU/Linux
Message-ID	<2015446.DIVbhacDa7@svarog>
Hello,
sorry for late reply.

Dne úterý 11. března 2025 14:21:02, středoevropský standardní čas, Ingo 
Klöcker napsal(a):
> On Dienstag, 11. März 2025 12:16:30 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit
> Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
> > Dne úterý 11. března 2025 12:04:23, středoevropský standardní
> > čas, Ingo Klöcker napsal(a):
> > > On Dienstag, 11. März 2025 10:47:01 Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit
> > > Vojtěch Zeisek wrote:
> > > > I'm bit confused. I set up IMAP folder in KMail, and from
> > > > there I moved some mails to folder within local folders.
> > > > That resource claims the mails are in
> > > > /home/vojta/.local/share/local-mail/
> > > > KMail as well as Akonadi Console claim there are 31 MB,
> > > > but when I navigate to that folder, it just contain empty
> > > > directories (default structure of Maildir), but in fact it's
> > > > empty. So, where are the mails? Just in the Akonadi
> > > > database? How do I enforce to save them into that Maildir? I
> > > > wish to have them physically on disk, not just in the database.
> > > 
> > > It takes some time until the files/messages appear in the file
> > > system after a move. The move seemingly happens very fast,
> > > but that's just the update of the location in the database. The
> > > files are written to the file system when a sync happens. I
> > > haven't moved larger amounts of mails to a local folder so
> > > that's just what I remember. If the messages still don't
> > > appear after some time then there may be a new bug.
> > 
> > Thank You and sorry, ma bad. I use openSUSE Tumbleweed,
> > so typically newest stable versions, here KMail 6.3.2 (24.12.2),
> > Kf 6.11.0, Qt 6.8.2.
> 
> Okay. That's the same version that I use. I have last "moved" a few
> thousand messages from an IMAP folder to a local folder in November
> last year. It's very likely that I copied the messages to the local folder
> and then deleted them from the IMAP folder, i.e. I didn't move them
> directly. All of those messages are in the new/ subfolder on disk.

I always move, as KMail supports that...

> I have just moved (via drag&drop; this time I really moved them
> instead of doing copy+delete) a few messages from an IMAP
> folder to a local folder. All messages are available on disk.
> I suppose that you have enabled displaying of "hidden files"?
> KMail uses "hidden subdirectories" for subfolders of local mail.

Of course. :-)

> > I moved the mails a least 10 days ago.
> 
> It shouldn't take that long. At most a few minutes,
> but usually just a few seconds.

OK

> > I can access them, fine, I just wonder where they are. :-)
> 
> You could try the following:
> 1.) Copy (!) a few of those messages to an IMAP folder. Verify
> with another email client (or, if possible, via the webmail
> interface) that the messages arrived in the IMAP folder.

This works practically instantly.

> 2.) Copy (!) the messages from the IMAP folder to another
> local folder. Check if the messages appear on disk.

KMail shows them, everything looks fine, but they do not appear on the disk.
Sincerely,
V.

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