RE: Ease of use (was RE: Here is my Centipede scepticism)

"Adam Jack" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.krysalis.user
Message-ID <000d01c32de8$cc297f00$851ce641@wdn086>
Mats wrote:

	I know ant fairly well, so I'm a good potential customer
	of such a tutorial, so please send it over to me, if you
	write it, and have it ready for review!

Since you started with 'is centipede dead', you don't seem to have the
powers of observation a good reviewer would have. Since you went on to
'prove' that centipede isn't want you need 'cos you use low level ant tasks
(such as javadoc/junit) and don't seem able to recognize that some re-use
works for some groups of people some times, then you don't seem a good
potential tutorial "customer" 'cos you only see with your needs. Since
you've told us you've never used centipede, and don't particularly plan to,
you don't seem a good customer.

Does a cent match the flexibility/configurability of a single ant task, no,
that is ludicrous and arguing it with you is a waste of time -- especially
since we agree. Cents are small pieces of scripts (perhaps an xslt
translation, followed by a jar archive, followed by a publish over FTP) this
is re-usable (i.e. it works adequately for a reasonable number of users, a
decent amount of the time). The cents we ship help us, and others, you don't
have to use them.

There are issues w/ distributing large complex ant scripts amongst a
development group, and centipede is attempting to provide tools to help
that. Is it perfect? no? Is it a worthwhile goal to explore? yes. Centipede
says ant is great, so use it, and supplement with this if/when it helps you.

Now if you'd like to use centipede, and then contribute some positive
feedback -- or better yet -- ideas/questions for a tutorial, then we start
talking. Are you willing to step up to this?

regards

Adam



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