Re: C coding

Frank,
How do you know what it is to give bearth? 
To clarify - do you mean for mother or for child? 
Or for father? Then it is more like a pleasure...

Learning C is indeed not like breathing, but as soon as you know how to master it, writing is as easy as breathing.
I read the thread with great interest as a person who write business applications on ILE/C - and do not suffer much.
Of course - you better understand things when you compare them, but should anyone in any situation compare all possibilities to make a right choice? Then he will probably forget the goal at some moment.

You complain about ILE/C compiler? Try to read chinese. You probably will not understand even a single letter. Is it because chinese is bad? 
But look, more than 1G people speak this language. So maybe it is you, who is bad?

I personally haven't seen anything more awfull than java environment error messages. Well, there's also LISP with one error message: NIL.

C is not "just a tool". C is a language that, as Erik mentioned, is on the distinguished first place in TIOBE index (http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html) and it is there for a long time: 15%-20% during last 10 years. Compared to a niche RPG having less than 0.3%....

Possibility to shoot into your leg? Yes, probably. But it is not a problem of a rifle, it is a problem of a user! Rifle is not guilty anyhow.

And after all, guys, it is a C group - even if it has been recently renamed to something else. There is another group for RPG.


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From: c400-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected] [mailto:c400-l-bounces-Zwy7GipZuJhWk0Htik3J/[email protected]] On Behalf Of frank kolmann
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Subject: Re: [C400-L] C coding

Hi Erik

I have recently gone through the agony of learning C.
I am by no means an expert. However all the other languages I learnt as easy as breathing.
Learning C was like giving birth.

Finding C syntax errors on compiles is like winning a lottery, it is so very Very very hard, I almost need to have a compiler in my head.

If C is best we have for coding it is no mystery to me  that Program Coding is beyond the ability of most people.
I find it tremendously ironic that programmers set up systems to make life easier for others but no one, it seems, can set up a programming language that is both powerful and simple to code.

C is just a tool and it is appropriate for what it does.

One chooses the vehicle appropriate for the task, imo using C for business code is like using a crawler tractor with a hydraulic powered jack hammer to crack a nut myself I prefer to use  nutcracker pliers (RPG ILE).


PS calling people names does not help your argument.

>

>If someone thinks of C as mainly a vehichle to help you shooting 
>yourself in the foot then you should probably go into some business. 
>That is just ignorant and moronic. The language at number 1 for feb 
>2014 in the TIOBE index, really? Remind me, where is RPG IV again? I 
>guess the leaders of North Korea think they are the centre of the universe too.
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