Re: Uncle Bob

Jim Franz <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.as400.rpg
Message-ID <CAEVZ15OBOGrSTaW2bEVJQWjDu+qVAWdDsmD9LYPqevDBYhDV2Q@mail.gmail.com>
it is in the RTVJOBA command, including a subtype (what kind of batch
job...)
From inside a program could use qcmdexec or set up your own clle to to
return what just parms you need
JOB          (10)
USER         (10)
NBR           (6)
CURUSER      (10)
TYPE          (1)
SUBTYPE       (1)
... more

Jim Franz

On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 9:23 AM Daniel Gross <[email protected]> wrote:

> > On Jan 25, 2026, at 7:23 AM, Gad Miron wrote:
>
> > Is there any merit in asking IBM to add this to RPG's PSDS?
>
> Just create an idea at the ideas portal - maybe IBM does implement it in
> the future.
>
> > On 25.01.2026, at 15:10 Jim Oberholtzer wrote:
>
> > Why?  Is it not available with the query?  What circumstances occur
> where you can use the PSDS and the query would not be able to get the
> status?
>
> Well, first of all, the EXEC SQL needs a lot of time. The query itself and
> the table function are much slower, than a static marker in the PSDS would
> be.
>
> Second - SQL is not always an option - OK there still is the API call -
> but as the job name, user and job number are already available in the PSDS,
> it only would make sense to make more job info available. E.g . the client
> IP address would also be great.
>
> Just my 2ct
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
>
>
> > Am 25.01.2026 um 15:10 schrieb Jim Oberholtzer <
> [email protected]>:
> >
> > Why?    Is it not available with the query?  What circumstances occur
> where you can use the PSDS and the query would not be able to get the
> status?
> >
> > I use the job status all the time but I’ve not run into a situation
> where it’s not available.
> >
> >
> > Jim Oberholtzer
> > Agile Technology Architects
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2026, at 7:23 AM, Gad Miron <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I queried TABLE(QSYS2.GET_JOB_INFO) to get this piece of data
> >> (Batch or interactive).
> >> Is there any merit in asking IBM to add this to RPG's PSDS?
> >> Gad
> >>> date: Sun, 25 Jan 2026 08:44:33 +0100
> >>> from: Daniel Gross <[email protected]>
> >>> subject: Re: Uncle Bob
> >>> IMHO - "hallucinations" - AFAIK there is and never was a "job type"
> field
> >>> in the PSDS.
> >>> But it's not uncommon for LLM to "hallucinate" and produce results that
> >>> are simply plain wrong.
> >>> You then have to "argue" with it to accept the correction.
> >>> We still have to accept that - no matter how far advanced those models
> are
> >>> - they are still driven by statistical probability.
> >>> And IMHO those hallucination problems will get worse, because they
> models
> >>> are now trained partly with data, that is already generated by other
> LLMs.
> >>> I have about 10 drafts for blog and LinkedIn posts here, that I wanted
> to
> >>> do about Bob since I first seen it at TechXchange - but they all end
> up not
> >>> so positive - so right now I keep them to myself, until I have more
> >>> empirical data.
> >>> Bob is impressive - some things it really does quite good. But there
> are
> >>> so many cases where it quietly fails, but the code looks so convincing.
> >>> Right now, my personal experience says: take everything that ANY
> LLM/AI is
> >>> producing with a good (large) grain of salt!
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Daniel
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