Re: [stack] Abstracting away the complexity is the goal.
chris glur <[email protected]> Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:27:47 +0200
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You might note that I wrote "data flow VIEW", and not data flow programming language. Without giving much thought, I speculate that such a one dimensional facility, could not be Turing complete. In the real life example that I gave, clearly the control structures are embedded in the library 'utilities'. Did you understand, how I explained that conventionally unix puts the control structures in the shell-scripts, and has the 'straight-line data transformer chains' embedded in there ? I want to be more lazy and just string someone else's transformers together, where it's possible. BTW you've confirmed what I suspected: it's taboo to discuss the psychological basis of computing practices. Importantly the MIT old-boys touch on it discretely. I can well believe that any diversion from the popular wisdom of NY [Wall street] was hammered down. == Chris Glur. On 2/23/10, John Nowak <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Feb 22, 2010, at 2:59 PM, chris glur wrote: > >>> How did you measure the complexity? I don't get it. >> >> The number of new concepts introduced. > > That's a terrible way to measure complexity. > >> For decade/s I ignored Turbo-pascal & used my own P-code compiler, >> because >> "turbo" was a fad-word. I've been thinking that blogs are just a >> passing fad >> like sub-prime-loans. > > This exchange is embarrassing to read. > >> I'm not convinced that adding control stuctures to this data-flow- >> view, >> is viable, because it would destroy the one-dimensional simplicity. > > Yes, just like adding a steering rack to a car. > > - jn >