Re: Must have SINGLE input/Arg.
"'William Tanksley, Jr' [email protected] [concatenative]" <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:23:30 -0700
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--6NrZZLgv41ml6hhmI3J-86UPNTdQkbYzsQSQvcL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chris glur [email protected] [concatenative] <[email protected]> wrote: > Readers of this forum are dispersed over the globe, with different > knowledge/experience backgrounds, using different OSs ...... > What [if any] is our common goal? We have an almost impossibly broad challenge, Chris -- we're taking a practical language that exists in only a few different instances and discovering (thanks to Manfred von Thun) that there's some mathematics that describes it. What follows from that? > I came here to find formal-methods of proving-code-correctness, > and found none. I think that's an understandable expectation, although I'm not sure why you think there aren't any -- it may be that you're placing more demands on a young field than is really appropriate. We're not geniuses -- or I'm not -- we're just curious people. What we've built so far is what there is to show. Thousands of people have worked on other language types; tens of people have worked on concatenative languages. As for your language ideas -- try Microsoft Powershell. It has an amazingly clever way of integrating pipelining, automatic iteration, and a number of other things. Wolfram's new language is likely to be even better, and apparently a version of it ships with the rPi (so you might be able to try it for free). (Have you watched his video?) Your ideas aren't about concatenative language, though, and I don't know why you keep posting the same things here. I'm not dissing them and I'm glad you posted (they're cool ideas), but it's getting repetitive now. > == Chris Glur. Let's see if this crappy gmailer works now! -Wm --6NrZZLgv41ml6hhmI3J-86UPNTdQkbYzsQSQvcL Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>chris glur [email protected] [concatenative]<br> <[email protected]> wrote:<br> > Readers of this forum are dispersed over the globe, with different<br> > knowledge/experience backgrounds, using different OSs ......<br> > What [if any] is our common goal?<br> <br> We have an almost impossibly broad challenge, Chris -- we're taking a<br> practical language that exists in only a few different instances and<br> discovering (thanks to Manfred von Thun) that there's some mathematics<br> that describes it. What follows from that?<br> <br> > I came here to find formal-methods of proving-code-correctness,<br> > and found none.<br> <br> I think that's an understandable expectation, although I'm not sure<br> why you think there aren't any -- it may be that you're placing more<br> demands on a young field than is really appropriate. We're not<br> geniuses -- or I'm not -- we're just curious people. What we've built<br> so far is what there is to show. Thousands of people have worked on<br> other language types; tens of people have worked on concatenative<br> languages.<br> <br> As for your language ideas -- try Microsoft Powershell. It has an<br> amazingly clever way of integrating pipelining, automatic iteration,<br> and a number of other things. Wolfram's new language is likely to be<br> even better, and apparently a version of it ships with the rPi (so you<br> might be able to try it for free). (Have you watched his video?)<br> <br> Your ideas aren't about concatenative language, though, and I don't<br> know why you keep posting the same things here. I'm not dissing them<br> and I'm glad you posted (they're cool ideas), but it's getting<br> repetitive now.<br> <br> > == Chris Glur. Let's see if this crappy gmailer works now!<br> <br> -Wm<br> </p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: "William Tanksley, Jr" <[email protected]> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/concatenative/conversations/messages/5018;_ylc=X3oDMTJwbXBqbW4xBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MzkyNzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzUwMTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxNDA5MDczODU2?act=reply&messageNum=5018">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bstack%5D%20Must%20have%20SINGLE%20input%2FArg%2E" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bstack%5D%20Must%20have%20SINGLE%20input%2FArg%2E" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/concatenative/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMWxja3I0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MzkyNzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQwOTA3Mzg1Ng--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/concatenative/conversations/topics/5008;_ylc=X3oDMTM0ZTZka21rBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MzkyNzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BG1zZ0lkAzUwMTgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxNDA5MDczODU2BHRwY0lkAzUwMDg-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (11) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; "><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/concatenative/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcHY4Z21oBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MzkyNzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQwOTA3Mzg1Ng--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkdDc1ZG1wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4MzkyNzQEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDA2NzY0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDA5MDczODU2" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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