Re: Calling C api's for a hdf lib

Peter Haas <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.delphi.jedi
Message-ID <[email protected]>
on 2004-01-28T03:28:53+01:00 Helen Borrie wrote:
> Caveat emptor!!

> JEDI + API is a private project owned by Peter Haas,

Wrong. JEDI+ API is a open source project. I'm not the "owner", like Helen
Borrie is not the "owner" of and JEDI project.


> not linked to Project JEDI in any way,

Wrong. JEDI+ API is a JEDI project. That some of the currently member
of JEDI Steering don't acknowledge this, it not my problem, rather a
problem of this people. Unfortunately the behavior of this people
harm the project JEDI, its developer and its users. Dismiss this
people and the problem is solved.


> by which Mr Haas appears to be attempting to hijack the JEDI API
> project.

There is nothing, what could be hijacked. In a open source project
there are developer, which do the work, this developer are the
project. Not any people which give himself a title like Web Team
Coordinator or API Conversions Coordinator, because he have do
anything for the project long time ago. The active developer determine
a project, this is the rule number one in a open source project.


>>I write this, because JEDI Tech is a dead project

> JEDI Tech?  there has never been such a project.  There was, for a time, a 
> private email forum named JEDI Tech, which was used to coordinate a large 
> project to standardise and grade the API library. When the project 
> completed, the list was disbanded.

There exist Steering member, which are call it JEDI Tech. Call it, how
you want, it is dead.


>>  and unfortunately JEDI Steering don't want to continue it active, even 
>> if it create a new fassade, there is nothing behind.

> As a member of JEDI Steering I am completely unaware of any policy to 
> discontinue any project handling API conversions.

Either JEDI Steering don't have inform you or you don't have read the
mails. I have a official statement of JEDI Steering, which declare it.


> It is still active.

Something like that the old JEDI homepage. If a project do nothing for
over one year, it is not active. And everybody can see it, please
inform you, before you write nonsense.


>>Bye Peter.
>>--
>>"It is not our job to work on new conversions or update older ones."

> This quote was taken out of context during a dispute between two 
> non-English speakers writing in English in an obscure, non-Project JEDI 
> newsgroup a long time ago.

The only true fact is, that there was two non-English speakers. The
context was the task of the JEDI API Library project (title is copy
and past from the new homepage, I hope it is correct this time), I
think this is the same context like now. That you designate
jedi.binaries on the talkto.net server as a non-Project JEDI newsgroup
make me thoughtfully. The thread was related to the JCL, I hope you
don't deny the JCL to be a JEDI project.


> It serves no purpose but for an angry and vindictive person to
> propagate a malicious lie.

Insults and imputations, like this, seems to be a speciality of JEDI
Steering, together with some lies a constant concomitant phenomenon in
the fight of JEDI Steering against me.

The statement is a quote of a Steering member. If the quote is wrong,
why you defend it (see below), if the quote is true, how can it be a
malicious lie. Far from the fact, that this statement was given in
this form.


> There is a team which reviews submissions of both new and existing 
> conversions and grades them.

You have forgotten to write, that the team exists currently on the
paper only, in reality there is nothing, which do this.


> As a rule, if you submit a conversion, it will get reviewed and, if
> it is testable, it is tested and graded.

The last time happens years ago. And partial the grades are wrong.


> It is not the role of the review team to re-code submissions or to
> take old conversions and bring them up to date with new SDKs. That
> is what **JEDI members** do, and are encouraged to do. In context,
> that was exactly what the quoted statement meant.

JEDI+ API do more than this. It do, what the founder of JEDI has do,
create and update conversions.

To quote a furthermore statement of Mister Marquardt:
"Why should we be interested is someone who considers us a waste
basket?"

I have never consider a API header conversion project as a waste
basket, I has simple try to donate a conversion, but JEDI was not
interested. Therefore this statement was and is a impertinence.
For people, which don't know the history, despite I have JEDI offer to
participate as a active member, JEDI Steering has disapproved.


That JEDI Steering meantime has changed its general opinion and
consider its own API projects as a waste basket, this is in my eyes
very bad. And under such a background I has found JEDI+ API.


> The system works well when the code is flowing well.  Every pair of eyes on
> the code helps it to be better.  Peter Haas could have been a useful 
> contributor to that system if he hadn't chosen, instead, to invent a 
> spurious dispute with Project JEDI as a strategy to try to prove his 
> technical superiority over everyone else in the world, by any means, fair 
> or foul.

And a further time insults and imputations, instead a constructive
thought. I'm successful in my live and in my job and satisfied
therewith. I don't need a project JEDI to increase my self esteem
based on the work of other developer, like the most JEDI Steering
members, which don't particapte on the development progress.


> What a waste of talent and energy!! It's time for Mr Haas to get his head 
> on straight and figure out a way to work positively with Project JEDI, 
> instead of trying to hijack it for his own purposes. That way, everyone wins.

And again groundless imputations.

There are two ways to view my contributions to JEDI. On the one side,
I'm work for the Project JEDI, because DSPack and JEDI+ API are JEDI
projects, but JEDI Steering don't appreciate my work.

On the other side, there is not any possibility for me to do anything
for JEDI projects, which are controlled by JEDI Steering, because JEDI
Steering don't wish, that I participate on JEDI. Take a look back in
near past regarding my zlib library or in the more far past regarding
other donation tries. Know, that several JEDI Steering members, in
front Mister Marquardt, have proclaim me the war, wrote me mails with
offends or offend me in the public in the name of JEDI, distribute
lies about me. JEDI Steering do many things to hinder, that I want to
be a member of this community.

That I consider JEDI+ as a JEDI project is a acclaim to the beginning
and the currently active developer of JEDI. And concomitant it is a
expression of disdain to the parasites, which try to get profit from
the work without a own contribution. People like you, you hinder with
success, that JEDI have a adequately homepage meantime for several
years, you force JEDI to create a new homepage on a other place with a
mostly unknown URL (although this homepage currently contain the same
outdated informations, e.g. I be mentioned as the project leader of a
currently frozen JEDI project).

However, you should participate on the Project JEDI in a equivalent
manner, like I, before you arrogate to speak anything over me
regarding JEDI.

Peter.


 

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