Re: Is Smart Eiffel ready for large-scale application ?

On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 06:01:31PM +0200, Lothar Scholz wrote:
> Hello Marcio,
> 
> Saturday, April 9, 2005, 4:28:53 PM, you wrote:
> 
> MM> Hi,
> 
> MM>   Why are you considering SmartEiffel instead of Modula-3 then ? I'd be interested to
> MM> know.
> 
> MM>   Also: how about ISE Eiffel versus SmartEiffel ? Does it
> MM> have the same negative points, 
> MM> Lothar ? I mean, it has incremental compilation, Threads, an IDE with Debugging support,
> MM> etc. No ?
> 
> 5000 US$ per license :-(

Modula 3 is free.

And didn't there use to be some kind of programming conntest held every
year by ISE in which everybody entering got a free Eiffel compiler?
Or do I remember wrong or don't they do it any more?

> 
> Threads are AFAIK not working with shared memory, they use like TCL
> separated memory areas.

That sounds like a reply for Eiffel, not Modula 3.
In ISE Eiffel, if I recal correctly, the multithreading was cunningly designed
so that it could be implemented either as separate memory areas for each process
or as blatantly chared memory -- or all kinds of weirdness in-betweenm with varying
amounts of overhead or different operations.

Modula 3 has shared-memory parallelism and garbage-collection, which is quite a
stunt.

> 
> If threads and dll's are not a must have feature on your list then i
> would consider an ISE Eiffel environment for development and a SmartEiffel
> compiler run for deployment as optimal.

If they are, consider Modula 3. An entirely different style of wordiness...

-- hendrik

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