Re: New EEP draft: Pinning operator ^ in patterns

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:39:55AM +0100, Loïc Hoguin wrote:
> I replied privately to keep the thread on topic. Oh well. :-)

Sorry!  I could have noticed! :-)


> 
> On 22/01/2021 11:29, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> > Interesting...  I will try keep my eyes more open.
> > 
> > Best regards
> > / Raimo
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:12:09AM +0100, Loïc Hoguin wrote:
> >> On 22/01/2021 10:28, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 10:21:04AM +0100, Loïc Hoguin wrote:
> >>>> On 22/01/2021 10:09, Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> >>>>> You are attempting the Trump argumentation line:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       Repeat a lie until it is accepted as true.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hate that.  Please stop doing that!
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't know why you attribute this to Trump, this is as old as humanity,
> >>>> and there are far better examples everyday from news organizations,
> >>>> politicians, PR people and so on. It's how much of the world operates.
> >>>
> >>> Sadly you are right.  Trump has just become a face for it.  That is why he
> >>> is today my first association.  And it is the first time an American
> >>> president uses it so blatantly and often.
> >>
> >> You've not been paying attention. The most well known case is Irak's
> >> WMDs that led to a pointless war. There are countless cases going back
> >> all the way to the 70s if not more. Trump was not special in that
> >> regard. If anything, he meant and did what he said a lot more than
> >> typical politicians who just give empty promises.
> >>
> >> What feels new is the unity of the establishment (including the media)
> >> against the president. But it's not new either, it happened every time a
> >> president challenged the status quo.
> >>
> >> There's a strong parallel to Kennedy for example:
> >> https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/jfk-in-history/john-f-kennedy-and-the-press
> >>
> >> There are many other cases. Reagan is probably the most recent case.
> >>
> >> Now we are back to the establishment being back in bed with the
> >> president. So you're going to see the opposite happening. Instead of
> >> constantly attacking the president, you're going to see the media
> >> lauding him for every little things. When scandals inevitably happen,
> >> they'll be ignored or, if too big, shown but quickly forgotten. Negative
> >> news about Covid will disappear in a flash, to give you an example.
> >>
> >> To be fair I'm not predicting anything, this has already happened. But
> >> you probably have not noticed yet.
> >>
> >> When you do, you will start to notice it every time.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Loïc Hoguin
> >> https://ninenines.eu
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Loïc Hoguin
> https://ninenines.eu

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