Re: Erlang forums (was Re: PING TEST)

 I think the mailing list has had its role in the community, but I can't
see any discussion in this list that we can't have in a forum. More than
people will not be there because they don't like Forums. My feeling is that
we lose more new developers or companies because we have a mailing list.

When companies look around to see if they should use Erlang or Elixir,
Elixir will win. The reasons are straightforward, and they can see a
community, have a better discussion and adopt new approaches.

This list has had some good runs, but for me, Forums and Slack community
have been so much better than this list or IRC. I am not saying they are
perfect, and we maybe change to something else in a couple of years.

This Forum is ten years late, and we should have unified somewhere long
ago. If things aren't changing, Erlang will be a building block for Elixir,
and it will be even harder to convince companies why they should use Erlang.

Den lör 18 dec. 2021 kl 10:21 skrev Eric Pailleau <[email protected]
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> Thanks Yao,
>
> I couldn't tell better my feelings on this.
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> I'm not against the forum, I did a try, but my feelings is that both are
> not the same goal.
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> We need to keep mailing for some subjects to be discussed with OTP team.
> And also announcements.
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> Forum is helpful for helping new comers, creating groups around some
> applications etc.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Envoyé depuis mon mobile
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>
> ---- Yao Bao a écrit ----
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> Hello,
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>
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> Erlang bring us together as a community, we don't share data
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> between processes, but we do share love from Erlang.
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>
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> It is not common for programmers say "love" to a programming
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> language. Erlang programmers might not use Erlang in daily job,
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> but we are willing to put some of our life and energy into this.
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> Personally, mainly because of the uncommon beauty of it.
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>
>
> Yes, we are still marginal. And this might be the root cause of
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> this movement. I can understand it, but why can't we have both?
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>
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> Yes, resources are always limited, and we can't split energy into
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> two things equally, this is understandable. But having both, or,
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> in a foreseeable future, we might discover some better methods
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> to organize our community, then we can say this is the true "rich"
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> community. New generations are good and unavoidable, but I
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> hope we can keep the old generations as much as we can.
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>
>
> Every once in a while, some shiny things appears, and we are
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> not against shiny things, they are good, if it is good enough to
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> replace the old one entirely, nobody will miss it. We just need
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> sometime to prove it.
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>
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> We can deprecate language features, but I hope we do not
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> deprecate people. Shiny tools can attract young generations,
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> I don't know the story or history about Elixir forums, but I would
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> say the biggest difference would be the origin of these two
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> languages. Of course it is good to have a try, after receiving the
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> new Erlang forums announcement, I give it a try almost
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> immediately, and personally prefer this mailing list for now.
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>
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> Although as we see, this mailing list is not very "active", but we
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> really care about it. And this might be why some "sad" emotion
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> comes along. If we don't care about it, we would not say any word
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> about it.
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> I really hope this mailing list is still alive. Maybe one reason would
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> be good enough to keep it: old generations are still alive.
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>
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> Thanks,
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> Yao
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