Re: Erlang forums (was Re: PING TEST)

On 2021/12/19 9:02, Jeff Schultz wrote:
> On 18/12/2021 04:02, Igor Clark wrote:
>> I agree wholeheartedly. Thank you for putting it so carefully and 
>> insightfully, Yao.
> 
> I also agree.
> 
> On an internet mailinglist, I can listen.
> On an internet forum, I am property.

At least you grok the motivation behind this sort of move.

A central point I have to drive into my geopol and intel students over 
and over is that "Capacity drives intent". Even if the original intent 
was to make a more "modern" single place to discuss Erlang, once that 
place becomes The One True Community the exclusionary capacity enabled 
by it will eventually change the intent of those running it. (In the end 
it will only make the Erlang community lore harder to find in the noise 
-- but whatever, no online platform is forever unless you do it yourself.)

I've just had to make my own little island of misfits -- mostly new 
Erlangers who want to solve problems and really don't care about 
anything else, least of all feels politics and other regulatory nonsense 
that people want to inject into projects and communities by rudely 
shoving their CoC into it. I don't really see a way around going 
independent to avoid the worsening social cancer.

I'll be on the ML as long as it is around and might occasionally check 
the forums if I'm super bored, but I'm pretty much seeing this as the 
end of the graybeard era -- it will definitely be a case of "nobody 
realized what they had until it was gone".

I have absolutely benefited an unfair amount from having this mailing 
list as a resource for the last several years. Thanks to all for the 
lessons and the laughs. Being proven wrong on the ML has always been one 
of those magical experiences where I could directly map blows to my ego 
to immediately useful lessons learned -- really fantastic stuff.

A late Merry Christmas to you all! Weee!
-Craig