Re: [Erlang Forums] [Erlang/OTP Proposa ls/Proposals: RFC] Re-visiting EEP-0055
Oliver Korpilla <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Apr 2022 08:01:04 +0200
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------4D0H0MGCVUYH4VKBVFOFPEAHZ6C0IO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations, all of you=2E You manage quite well what hasn't happened before: Making this list irrele= vant=2E The forums didn't quite do that=2E But your spammy posts that flood= everybody's mailboxes do=2E=20 I bet quite a few reasonable people would have dropped from the list by no= w=2E=20 I honestly don't care about whether you think if a simple optional operato= r ruins your true faith or will save us all=2E=20 Just stop the spam battle and by Jove stop reposting messages that actuall= y managed to miss the list to keep fanning this flame war=2E On 26 April 2022 04:24:49 CEST, zxq9 <zxq9@zxq9=2Ecom> wrote: >I'm assuming you meant your response to be to the list but maybe missed >that in a rush to respond (I know, things can sure get heated when >someone is wrong on the internet!)=2E > >On 2022/04/26 3:29, Austin Ziegler wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:23 PM zxq9 <zxq9@zxq9=2Ecom <mailto:zxq9@zxq9= =2Ecom>> wrote: >>=20 >> On 2022/04/26 0:45, Austin Ziegler wrote: >> > That said, it took me a *long*=C2=A0time to understand `=3D:=3D`= because >> it=E2=80=99s a >> > complex, compound sigil (not used _that_ frequently) that I=E2= =80=99ve never >> > seen in any other language (and I know quite a few)=2E To _me_, >> `^Value -> >> > =E2=80=A6` is clearer than `NewValue when Value =3D:=3D NewValue= `=2E But that=E2=80=99s me=2E >>=20 >> Sorry, but no=2E >>=20 >>=20 >> Sorry, but you don=E2=80=99t actually get to tell me what I think is cl= earer=2E Full stop=2E > >I get to point out when your argument leans on an un-idiomatic construct >and demonstrate how the idiomatic way makes this a non-issue at its >root=2E > >Did you even read what I wrote? I gave an idiomatic example=2E > >> As I said, I don=E2=80=99t really care about this EEP=2E I do care that= people have been arguing this emotionally (while pretending not to do so) = and have taken sideswipes against other languages that have made different = choices=2E > >Emotional? The only emotion I'm feeling right now is mirth, buddy=2E > >Me: [points out how your example makes no sense] >You: STOP BEING EMOTIONAL! >Me: OK, bro=2E [chuckles in Erlangistani] > >> The Erlang core development team has expressed some interest in this EE= P=2E Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be more productive to take it up with them on the = forum, and provide them actually *useful*=C2=A0arguments? > >The CoC bans those of us who disagree with the DIE and ESG religion >from participating in the forums=2E So, no=2E > >I mentioned all this before=2E >You never read what I wrote=2E >That's been a theme in this super weird thread=2E > >> It=E2=80=99d be more fun than the soliloquizing that I=E2=80=99ve seen = so far=2E > >Sorry, you're going to have to use fewer $2 words; we conservative >minded folks are too stupid to understand what you're saying if it >doesn't involve cheeseburgers, pro-wrestling or Orange Man metaphors=2E > >-Craig --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------4D0H0MGCVUYH4VKBVFOFPEAHZ6C0IO Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html><head></head><body>Congratulations, all of you=2E<br><br>You manage q= uite well what hasn't happened before: Making this list irrelevant=2E The f= orums didn't quite do that=2E But your spammy posts that flood everybody's = mailboxes do=2E <br><br>I bet quite a few reasonable people would have drop= ped from the list by now=2E <br><br>I honestly don't care about whether you= think if a simple optional operator ruins your true faith or will save us = all=2E <br><br>Just stop the spam battle and by Jove stop reposting message= s that actually managed to miss the list to keep fanning this flame war=2E<= br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 26 April 2022 04:24:49 CEST, zxq9 <= zxq9@zxq9=2Ecom> wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin= : 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-l= eft: 1ex;"> <pre dir=3D"auto" class=3D"k9mail">I'm assuming you meant your response to= be to the list but maybe missed<br>that in a rush to respond (I know, thin= gs can sure get heated when<br>someone is wrong on the internet!)=2E<br><br= >On 2022/04/26 3:29, Austin Ziegler wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu= ote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; = padding-left: 1ex;">On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 2:23 PM zxq9 <zxq9@zxq9=2Eco= m <mailto:zxq9@zxq9=2Ecom>> wrote:<br><br> On 2022/04/26 0:45, = Austin Ziegler wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:= 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">T= hat said, it took me a *long* time to understand `=3D:=3D` because<br>= </blockquote>it=E2=80=99s a<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m= argin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1= ex;">complex, compound sigil (not used _that_ frequently) that I=E2=80=99ve= never<br>seen in any other language (and I know quite a few)=2E To _me_,<b= r></blockquote>`^Value -><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"= margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: = 1ex;">=E2=80=A6` is clearer than `NewValue when Value =3D:=3D NewValue`=2E = But that=E2=80=99s me=2E<br></blockquote><br> Sorry, but no=2E<br><br><b= r>Sorry, but you don=E2=80=99t actually get to tell me what I think is clea= rer=2E Full stop=2E<br></blockquote><br>I get to point out when your argume= nt leans on an un-idiomatic construct<br>and demonstrate how the idiomatic = way makes this a non-issue at its<br>root=2E<br><br>Did you even read what = I wrote? I gave an idiomatic example=2E<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf;= padding-left: 1ex;">As I said, I don=E2=80=99t really care about this EEP= =2E I do care that people have been arguing this emotionally (while pretend= ing not to do so) and have taken sideswipes against other languages that ha= ve made different choices=2E<br></blockquote><br>Emotional? The only emotio= n I'm feeling right now is mirth, buddy=2E<br><br>Me: [points out how your= example makes no sense]<br>You: STOP BEING EMOTIONAL!<br>Me: OK, bro=2E [= chuckles in Erlangistani]<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D= "margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left:= 1ex;">The Erlang core development team has expressed some interest in this= EEP=2E Wouldn=E2=80=99t it be more productive to take it up with them on t= he forum, and provide them actually *useful* arguments?<br></blockquot= e><br>The CoC bans those of us who disagree with the DIE and ESG religion<b= r>from participating in the forums=2E So, no=2E<br><br>I mentioned all this= before=2E<br>You never read what I wrote=2E<br>That's been a theme in this= super weird thread=2E<br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma= rgin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1e= x;">It=E2=80=99d be more fun than the soliloquizing that I=E2=80=99ve seen = so far=2E<br></blockquote><br>Sorry, you're going to have to use fewer $2 w= ords; we conservative<br>minded folks are too stupid to understand what you= 're saying if it<br>doesn't involve cheeseburgers, pro-wrestling or Orange = Man metaphors=2E<br><br>-Craig<br></pre></blockquote></div><div style=3D'wh= ite-space: pre-wrap'><div class=3D'k9mail-signature'>-- <br>Sent from my An= droid device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E</div></div></body= ></html> ------4D0H0MGCVUYH4VKBVFOFPEAHZ6C0IO--