Re: objects and forth
[email protected] Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:02:43 -0700
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I remember Jeff Fox saying something to the point of that the engineers he worked with who knew ASM had a very easy time picking up the 1X Forths (machine forth, etc.). But those who were firmly entrenched in the C and related paradigms had a much harder time seeing the virtues of 1X forth and adopting its methodologies. So I'm wondering if the approach of learning C or Lisp or Small Talk first may prime the mind in a ineffecient way when it comes to forth? On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:33:42 -0300 , "Jecel Assumpcao Jr" <[email protected]> said: > David J. Goehrig wrote: > > > The way I typically teach programming to newbies, and reteach people > > who've acquired a theoretical education, is I start off with the bit, and > > move up from there. By the end a few days, they've learned enough > > to do basic assembler. I then work with them to build a C or Lisp or > > Smalltalk. At that point, if they're willing I introduce them to Forth. > > You might find this course interesting: > > http://www1.idc.ac.il/tecs/ > > It is better known as "From Nand to Tetris in 12 steps". The authors > make some silly mistakes, like in their explanation of Harvard versus > Von Neuman architectures. And their machine language is more horrible > than I would like. But in general it seems to be a good course. > > About the subject, I worked on hardware for OO Color Forth in 2001/2002 > and so have an opinion about this. But it will have to wait until > tomorrow (Friday is more likely...). > > -- Jecel > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > Main web page - http://www.colorforth.com >