Re: what monad is this?
Georgi Lyubenov <[email protected]>
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Notably, it is not always useful to suggest removing the `do`, e.g. I will often write that exact same `do` block with a let in it in tests, because it is very often the case that later down the line I do end up wanting to use binds/stop using binds in the `do` block, and I personally think the syntactic noise in the git diffs is not worth the (purely aesthetic?) benefit of not having the `do`. It's also useful if you're a fan of "abusing"(?) BlockArguments+`do` to turn f (foo bar baz) (u v) to f do foo bar baz do u v On 2/21/24 17:27, Mark McConnell via Haskell-Cafe wrote: > To my surprise, hlint (version 3.3.6) did not suggest taking out the > do. I ran the following through hlint. > > jk :: Bool > jk = do > let x = False > not x > > > > On Wednesday, February 21, 2024 at 04:23:49 AM EST, Noon van der Silk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yeah, it's a bit confusing; I think some tutorials/books do go over > the `do` simplification steps. I guess conceptually `do` doesn't mean > `Definitely a Monad`, it means `Maybe a Monad` or more `Probably > should be a Monad, and if not, just remove the do!`. > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2024 at 09:18, Johannes Waldmann > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Cafe, > > I was surprised to see ghc accept this code > > ghci> do let {x = False}; not x > True > > because I initially thought: there's a `do`, so there must be some > monad, > but which is it? some implicit Identity monad perhaps? > > But the type is indeed plain `Bool`, and the explanation is (I think): > there is a `do` but there is no monad, since the translation > according to > ( > https://www.haskell.org/onlinereport/haskell2010/haskellch3.html#x8-470003.14 > ) > does never produce `(>>=)`. > > So, all is fine, nothing to see here. > Perhaps keep in mind as an edge case, useful to confuse students. > Actually, to motivate them to read the language standard ... > > - J.W. > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > To (un)subscribe, modify options or view archives go to: > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > Only members subscribed via the mailman list are allowed to post. > > > > -- > Noon van der Silk > > http://silky.github.io/ > > "My programming language is kindness." > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > To (un)subscribe, modify options or view archives go to: > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > Only members subscribed via the mailman list are allowed to post. > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-Cafe mailing list > To (un)subscribe, modify options or view archives go to: > http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe > Only members subscribed via the mailman list are allowed to post. _______________________________________________ Haskell-Cafe mailing list To (un)subscribe, modify options or view archives go to: http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe Only members subscribed via the mailman list are allowed to post.