Re: A modest proposal (re the Platform)
George Colpitts <[email protected]> Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:37:46 -0400
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--===============1503762451036232280== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1d19cbaf54304f05cf297 --001a11c1d19cbaf54304f05cf297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree with Bob. Mark I think your proposal is the right thing for the Platform and for Haskell. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Bob Ippolito <bob-Zl9L/[email protected]> wrote: > +1 > > I'm just a user, but I'm very excited about the possibility of getting a > GHC 7.8 platform release sooner than later (especially considering Mio and > the other great additions). Another release with the same GHC wouldn't do > me much good. > > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Mark Lentczner <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Looks like GHC 7.8 is pretty near release. >> >> And while I know that we really like to have a GHC out for a while, and >> perhaps see the .1 release, before we incorporate it into the Platform, >> this GHC, while including many new and anticipated things, seems pretty >> well hammered on. >> >> Combine that with the now two-month late (all my fault) HP release for >> 2013.4.0.0 isn't slated to really have all that much new in it, in part >> because it is the same GHC as the last HP release. >> >> Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (methinks) if we >> release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early Feb. Folks >> would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platform. >> >> SO - I'm proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0 (I admit, I'm finding >> it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move right to putting out >> 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April. >> >> This release would have several big changes: >> >> - GHC 7.8 >> - New shake based build for the Platform >> - Support for validation via package tests >> - Support for a "server variant" (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we >> had any) >> - Automated version info w/historical version matrix page >> - Several significant packages: I'd like to see Aeson at the very >> least, updated OpenGL stuff >> >> I'd also propose changes for the Mac build (though this is obviously >> independent): >> >> - Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees consistent >> release) >> - Only 64bit (I know, controversial...) >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Libraries mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Haskell-platform mailing list > Haskell-platform-9EcH6oogKlu2EFrm9oAg2GD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org > http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-platform > --001a11c1d19cbaf54304f05cf297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:times ne= w roman,serif;font-size:large">I agree with Bob. Mark I think your proposal= is the right thing for the Platform and for Haskell.</div><div class=3D"gm= ail_extra"> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Bob Ipp= olito <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:bob-Zl9L/[email protected]" target=3D"_bl= ank">bob-Zl9L/[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo= te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"= > <div dir=3D"ltr">+1<div><br></div><div>I'm just a user, but I'm ver= y excited about the possibility of getting a GHC 7.8 platform release soone= r than later (especially considering Mio and the other great additions). An= other release with the same GHC wouldn't do me much good.</div> </div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><d= iv class=3D"h5">On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Mark Lentczner <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br> </div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo= rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir= =3D"ltr">Looks like GHC 7.8 is pretty near release.<div><br><div>And while = I know that we really like to have a GHC out for a while, and perhaps see t= he .1 release, before we incorporate it into the Platform, this GHC, while = including many new and anticipated things, seems pretty well hammered on.</= div> </div><div><br></div><div>Combine that with the now two-month late (all my = fault) HP release for 2013.4.0.0 isn't slated to really have all that m= uch new in it, in part because it is the same GHC as the last HP release.</= div> <div><br></div><div>Now - it would really look foolish, and taken poorly (m= ethinks) if we release a HP this month - only to have GHC 7.8 release early= Feb. Folks would really be head scratching, and wondering about the platfo= rm.</div> <div><br></div><div>SO - I'm proposing ditching the now late 2013.4.0.0= (I admit, I'm finding it hard to get excited by it!) and instead move = right to putting out 2014.2.0.0 - aimed for mid-March to mid-April.</div> <div><br></div><div>This release would have several big changes:</div><div>= <ul><li>GHC 7.8<br></li><li>New shake based build for the Platform</li><li>= Support for validation via package tests</li><li>Support for a "server= variant" (no OpenGL or other GUI stuff if we had any)</li> <li>Automated version info w/historical version matrix page</li><li>Several= significant packages: I'd like to see Aeson at the very least, updated= OpenGL stuff</li></ul><div>I'd also propose changes for the Mac build = (though this is obviously independent):</div> </div><div><ul><li>Built from GHC source, not dist. release. (guarantees co= nsistent release)</li><li>Only 64bit (I know, controversial...)</li></ul><d= iv>Thoughts?</div></div><div><br></div></div> <br></div></div><div class=3D"im">_________________________________________= ______<br> Libraries mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">Libraries@haskel= l.org</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries" target=3D"_bl= ank">http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries</a><br> <br></div></blockquote></div><br></div> <br>_______________________________________________<br> Haskell-platform mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Haskell-platform-9EcH6oogKlu2EFrm9oAg2GD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org">Haskell-platform@p= rojects.haskell.org</a><br> <a href=3D"http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-pla= tform" target=3D"_blank">http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin= fo/haskell-platform</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div> --001a11c1d19cbaf54304f05cf297-- --===============1503762451036232280== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Haskell-platform mailing list Haskell-platform-9EcH6oogKlu2EFrm9oAg2GD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org http://projects.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-platform --===============1503762451036232280==--