Re: 2nd gen Io
Steve Dekorte <[email protected]> Thu, 6 Mar 2014 16:28:04 -0800
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I=92d like to make the things that tend to be re-implemented in typical pro= jects part of the language - security, persistence, concurrency, distributi= on and user interaction. All of these could be seen as mapping problems and= their solution as adding explicit mapping boundaries. The first idea (which was probably already done in Smalltalk in 1980s) is t= o add a pointer to each object in the system to it=92s =93owner=94 and have= object ownership domains where the domain leader is an actor/process whose= execution thread is used for processing all messages sent to objects withi= n it=92s domain. Any object can become a domain of the objects below it in = the ownership graph. Domain boundaries are used to solve the problems of se= curity (tracking and verifying authority to invoke behaviors), concurrency = (avoid unexpected state changes, closely associate execution with the state= it will be working on), distribution and persistence (boundaries determine= the state which needs to be persisted or moved). Part of the persistence component is to support the indexing and lazy loadi= ng of individual objects and standard representations that can be externall= y manipulated and returned and merged with an optimistic locking mechanism. The user interaction part involves extending slots to have metadata and a s= tandard set of properties which are used for the interface mapping. This would be a big project but hopefully there will be time in the future = to take a stab at it. Sorry for the delay in responding, Steve On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:06 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Come on Steve, there are Io fans who wanna hear about it! Let us chat. >=20 > Selon Steve Dekorte <[email protected]>: >>=20 >> On Feb 19, 2014, at 1:28 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>> Hi all, >>>=20 >>> When there's no matching slot, the "forward" slot is activated. >>>=20 >>> I have this idea about a "before" slot: >>>=20 >>> If "before" doesn't exist, everything works as usual. >>>=20 >>> If "before" exists, it is always activated (and it receives the message= ) >> before >>> the slot lookup. Then, it produces a message (possibly the same) which = will >> be >>> treated as usual. >>>=20 >>> This could be used to test whether the sender as the "right" to access = a >>> particular slot, for example. >>=20 >> Hi Julien, >>=20 >> I like the idea. On my list for a 2nd gen Io is some form of support for >> rights on all objects. >>=20 >>> Is there already a way to do this at user level? >>=20 >> You can get the same effect using a proxy to forward message to the real >> object. >> Io uses proxies for futures and supports turning all references of one o= bject >> to another. >>=20 >>> Also, would anybody have a little constructive criticism about Io? >>=20 >> Always welcome! :) >>=20 >> Steve ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iolanguage/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iolanguage/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected]=20 [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/