Re: Recovering Dark Matter Ded passing through Io by way of 7 Languages in 7 Weeks
"Scott Solmonson
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Sun, 7 Jul 2019 09:10:44 -0700
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Thank you for sharing Sean-
I too was impressed with IO's elegance and simplicity- it matched "my own
head".
My own thoughts are that I'd like to see IO implemented as a design
pattern/lib in a more established language/env (Imagine the Scala->Java
relationship roughly)
I have been forced in to javaland for the past several years, and I suspect
that the "development community" in general also gets forced in similar
"standardized" directions for career/opportunity reasons etc.
I think Java may be a good candidate for this, given where it's gone in the
past few years, but I am certainly no expert here.
I'm a Systems guy at the core- perhaps some others can comment?
-SS
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On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:11 AM [email protected] [iolanguage] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Hiya Io community,
>
>
> I'm a dark matter dev that has mostly done stuff like Java, JavaScript,
> Ada95, PHP up to this point. As I've got into my 30s, I've slowed down on
> all-consuming product work and developed a bit of programming wanderlust =
to
> try to rekindle my interests. I'm currently deep diving into Rust and
> exploring language design via the original 7 Languages in 7 Weeks book. I
> just wrapped up a blog post on Io. My post is long and pretty basic for
> members of this group <https://www.bushido.codes/io-lang>, so absolutely
> no expectations that you read it.The short of it is that, as someone that
> hasn't worked with Smalltalk or LISP, I found Io to be brain bending and
> rewarding. Kudos to Steve and the rest of the community. I'm going to mov=
e
> on in my exploration shortly, but I wanted to reach out to see if there i=
s
> any feedback or if there is a current focus in the community that I shoul=
d
> add as a brief Call To Action at the bottom of my history section.
>
>
> Looking at some of the threads in here, it looks like there were
> discussions about an Io 2.0 at one point. Additionally, in an HN thread,
> Steve asked about porting Io to JavaScript. Based on this, I
> editorialized a bit and suggested that perhaps a good path forward would =
be
> to compile the Io interpreter to WASM (similar to what Mozilla has done
> with the Python interpreter <https://github.com/iodide-project/pyodide>),
> and invited folks that were interested in helping with that to reach out
> to Steve on Twitter. If there is a CTA that better aligns with what your
> community is focused on, I'm happy to replace my editorial statement with
> that.
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
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<p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you for sharing Sean-</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I too was impressed with IO=
9;s elegance and simplicity- it matched "my own head".</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My own thoughts are that I'd lik=
e to see IO implemented as a design pattern/lib in a more established langu=
age/env (Imagine the Scala->Java relationship roughly)<div><br></div><di=
v>I have been forced in to javaland for the past several years, and I suspe=
ct that the "development community" in general also gets forced i=
n similar "standardized"=C2=A0 directions for career/opportunity =
reasons etc.</div><div><br></div><div>I think Java may be a good candidate =
for this, given where it's gone in the past few years, but I am certain=
ly no expert here.</div><div>I'm a Systems guy at the core- perhaps som=
e others can comment?</div><div><br></div><div>-SS<br clear=3D"all"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
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te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:11 AM <a=
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [iolan=
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<p><span>Hiya Io community,=C2=A0</span></p><p><span><br></span></p><p>I=
9;m a dark matter dev that has mostly done stuff like Java, JavaScript, Ada=
95, PHP up to this point. As I've got into my 30s, I've slowed down=
on all-consuming product work and developed a bit of programming wanderlus=
t to try to rekindle my interests. I'm currently deep diving into Rust =
and exploring language design via the original=C2=A0<span style=3D"word-spa=
cing:normal;">7 Languages in 7 Weeks book. I just wrapped up a blog post on=
Io.=C2=A0</span><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www.bushido.codes/io-l=
ang" style=3D"word-spacing:normal;" target=3D"_blank">My post is long and p=
retty basic for members of this group</a><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal=
;">, so absolutely no expectations that you read it.</span><span style=3D"w=
ord-spacing:normal;">The short of it is that, as someone that hasn't</s=
pan><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">=C2=A0worked with Smalltalk or LIS=
P, I found=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">Io to be brain =
bending and rewarding. Kudos to Steve and the rest of the community. I'=
m going to move on in my exploration shortly, but I wanted to reach out to =
see if there is any feedback or if there is a current focus in the communit=
y that I should add as a=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">b=
rief=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">Call To Action at the=
bottom of my history section.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span style=3D"word-=
spacing:normal;">Looking at some of the threads in here, it looks like ther=
e were discussions about an Io 2.0 at one point. Additionally, in an HN thr=
ead, Steve asked about porting Io to JavaScript. Based on this,=C2=A0</span=
><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">I editorialized a bit and suggested t=
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ASM (<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://github.com/iodide-project/pyodide"=
target=3D"_blank">similar to what Mozilla has done with the Python interpr=
eter</a>), a</span><span style=3D"word-spacing:normal;">nd invited folks th=
at were interested in helping with that to reach out to Steve on Twitter. I=
f there is a CTA that better aligns with what your community is focused on,=
I'm happy to replace my editorial statement with that.</span></p><p><s=
pan style=3D"word-spacing:normal;"><br></span></p><p><span style=3D"word-sp=
acing:normal;">-Sean</span></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
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font-family: Arial;
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text-decoration: none;
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border: none;
padding-right: 5px;
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display: block;
margin-bottom: 5px;
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text-decoration: none;
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blockquote {
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width: 400px;
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width: 72px;
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color: #666666;
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text-align: center;
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font-weight: 700;
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font-weight: 700;
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margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
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text-decoration: none;
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font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
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margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
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margin: 0 0 1em 0;
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#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
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border-right: none !important;=20
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