Re: [jruby-user] Re: [jruby-dev] [jruby-user] Re: [jruby-dev] Mailing lists need to be migrated off Codehaus
Keith Bennett <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 15:33:36 -0400
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--001a1134ca9c688fed0513c86c16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Responses so far: "Google Groups is abandonware, and there is NO way to extract posts from it if you decide you made the wrong choice. That's why we still haven't moved the pre-discourse archive into here." ...and... "The thing that everyone seemed to dislike was that we couldn't be email-only when interacting with the discourse forum. At this point, the email features have caught up, so discourse is an excellent choice." - Keith On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Keith Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm in the Ruby Rogues "Parley" discussion group, and a couple of years > ago they switched from Google Groups to Discourse. > > There was a heated debate at the time. Some people hated Google Groups > because it wasn't open source and Google was not responsive in fixing > bugs. Others said that Discourse was not good on mobile phones. Whether > or not using it with email would really be convenient was questioned. > > I can't speak for the others, but I stopped participating -- I don't > remember the details, but either email did not work correctly or for some > reason I did not get notifications; and I never seem to get around to > logging in. > > If I get a chance I'll post a message there asking for a retrospective on > that decision. > > - Keith > > > > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Karol Bucek <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Discourse should be able to act like a plain-old mailing list: >> https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/MAILING-LIST-SETUP.md >> >> ... than of course I do not have any experience using it that way, just >> wanted to address the same kind of complains about it. >> groups is fine esp. if "quick" migration is possible. >> >> K. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:04 AM, christian <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> google groups would be OK to me or anything which works fine as "email" >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Tim Uckun <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> FWIW I find the discourse interface to be too distracting and busy. I >>>> like the email list. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Thomas E Enebo <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am inclined at this point with a slight bias towards google groups >>>>> because we use it for JNR and a few other projects but I will look at >>>>> Discourse since so many have mentioned it. >>>>> >>>>> My larger view from managing this stuff is to try and consolidate all >>>>> of this stuff down to as few instructions and moving parts as possible >>>>> while not pissing off community members :) >>>>> >>>>> -Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Chris Seaton <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We still get a bit of very obvious spam on jruby-user every few weeks >>>>>> - but I think most of it comes from the ruby-forum integration. Perhaps we >>>>>> should reconsider that as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 21:43, Charles Oliver Nutter <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Google Groups is easy to manage (even >>>>>> spam) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> blog: http://blog.enebo.com twitter: tom_enebo >>>>> mail: [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --001a1134ca9c688fed0513c86c16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Responses so far:<br><br>"Google Groups is aband= onware, and there is NO way to extract posts from it if you decide you made the wrong choice. That's why we still haven'= t moved the pre-discourse archive into here."<br><br></div>...and...<br><div><= br>"The thing that everyone seemed to dislike was that we couldn't= be email-only when interacting with the discourse forum. At this point, th= e email features have caught up, so discourse is an excellent choice."= <br><br></div><div>- Keith<br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b= r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Keith Bennett= <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D= "_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class= =3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd= ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div>I'm in the Ruby Rogu= es "Parley" discussion group, and a couple of years ago they swit= ched from Google Groups to Discourse.<br><br></div>There was a heated debat= e at the time.=C2=A0 Some people hated Google Groups because it wasn't = open source and Google was not responsive in fixing bugs.=C2=A0 Others said= that Discourse was not good on mobile phones.=C2=A0 Whether or not using i= t with email would really be convenient was questioned.<br><br></div>I can&= #39;t speak for the others, but I stopped participating -- I don't reme= mber the details, but either email did not work correctly or for some reaso= n I did not get notifications; and I never seem to get around to logging in= .<br><br></div>If I get a chance I'll post a message there asking for a= retrospective on that decision.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8888= 88"><br><br></font></span></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#8888= 88">- Keith</font></span><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div><div><div><div= ><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr = 15, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Karol Bucek <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:se= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #= ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>Disco= urse should be able to act like a plain-old mailing list: <a href=3D"https:= //github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/MAILING-LIST-SETUP.md" ta= rget=3D"_blank">https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/MAI= LING-LIST-SETUP.md</a><br><br></div>... than of course I do not have any ex= perience using it that way, just wanted to address the same kind of complai= ns about it. <br>groups is fine esp. if "quick" migration is poss= ible.<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span><font = color=3D"#888888">K.</font></span><div><div><br><div><div><div><br><div cla= ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6= :04 AM, christian <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= " target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol= id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">google groups would = be OK to me or anything which works fine as "email"</div><div><di= v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15,= 2015 at 3:14 AM, Tim Uckun <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:timucku= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br>= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW I f= ind the discourse interface to be too distracting and busy.=C2=A0 I like th= e email list.<br></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class= =3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Thomas E Enebo <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">tom.e= [email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s= tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad= ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>I am inclined at this point with = a slight bias towards google groups because we use it for JNR and a few oth= er projects but I will look at Discourse since so many have mentioned it.= =C2=A0 <br><br></div>My larger view from managing this stuff is to try and = consolidate all of this stuff down to as few instructions and moving parts = as possible while not pissing off community members :)<br><br></div>-Tom<br= ><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo= te">On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Chris Seaton <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a = href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">chrisgseaton@gmail= .com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma= rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:= 1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div>We still get a bit of very ob= vious spam on jruby-user every few weeks - but I think most of it comes fro= m the ruby-forum integration. Perhaps we should reconsider that as well.</d= iv><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>Chris</div></font></sp= an><span><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On 14 Apr 2015, at 21:43, = Charles Oliver Nutter <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"= _blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style=3D"fon= t-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;fon= t-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;t= ext-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;floa= t:none;display:inline!important">Google Groups is easy to manage (even</spa= n><br style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-= variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;= text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor= d-spacing:0px"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-sty= le:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line= -height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-s= pace:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">spam)</sp= an></div></blockquote></div><br></span></div></blockquote></div><br><br cle= ar=3D"all"><br></div></div><span><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div>blog: = <a href=3D"http://blog.enebo.com" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.enebo.com</= a>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 twitter: tom_enebo<br>mail: <a href=3D"mailto:= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></div> </font></span></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></di= v> </blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a1134ca9c688fed0513c86c16--