Re: Closing out 2.7 beta 4

2014-10-13 6:41 GMT+03:00 Jim Baker <[email protected]>:
>
> Jython 2.7.0 has been under active development since the PyCon sprints in
> March 2011. It’s about time we brought this to a close! Therefore I would
> like to propose that the beta 4 work be completed by the end of this month
> (Friday October 31), or at the very least by one week later (November 7).

+1

> Under this schedule, because beta 4 is our last beta, in 3 to 4 weeks we
> will be absolutely done with new features and will only focus on
> stabilization and high priority bug fixes for a release candidate well
> before the end of the year.

Does new features above also include fixes to the standard library to
match what is available in Python 2.7? One thing I'd like to look at
is adding support for Popen.terminate() (and possibly also
Popen.send_signal()), but I'm not sure when I actually have time for
that. Such an isolated fix ought to be safe to add also later in rc
phase, but I also understand if you want to set rules otherwise.

> In addition, I would like to suggest that we provide a beta 4 preview by
> using the soft beta process, just so people can try out what is now
> available, such as better Django support, without having to build their own
> release with ant. Let’s have this done by the end of the week.

Personally I found soft releases somewhat confusing and delayed
actually testing beta 3 because of them. I also didn't want to
recommend our users to test them because it wasn't clear what the
status actually was. What are the benefits of this approach compared
to just releasing more betas if there are problems with earlier
versions? If the main motivation is to make it easier to test the
latest code, wouldn't it be better to make the process to checkout out
and compiling the code easier?

> Deferred to 2.7.1 (or later)
>
> ensurepip and venv.

Does that mean there is no built-in pip support in 2.7? Will pip work
if installed separately?

Cheers,
    .peke
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