Re: Proposing a beta 3 for 2.7.1

Agree with Jim,

These are critical enough to have sorted out, but we should not not make
any kind of release either, and we are really close to a nice release.

Darjus

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM Jim Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hope everyone in the US had a happy Thanksgiving yesterday!
>
> You may have noticed that we have not done a release candidate. Me too!
> This is because we have two regressions compared to 2.7.0 that must be
> fixed:
>
> * pip is no longer installs executables correctly, including itself in
> ensurepip, due to shebang quoting issues on OS X; and not using
> zip-executable format on Windows. (The workaround is to use jython -m pip;
> this is probably why we didn't catch it earlier, because it is standard
> practice to use -m pip.) See http://bugs.jython.org/issue2360
>
> * The ssl module no longer validates certificates using system provided
> certs (in our case, provided by the JRE). See
> http://bugs.jython.org/issue2390
>
> Both of these bugs are marked as urgent, which we have used in the bug
> tracker to mark *blocking bugs*.
>
> I'm still hopeful that we can resolve these very shortly. In addition, it
> would still be nice, but not blocking, to get Java 9 support working. Other
> bugs remain open to be fixed. Please no more regressions however ;)
>
> We also have a number of other changes that have been made. Although the
> slipped date is not great for us, by far the most important thing is for us
> to have a high quality release for 2.7.1. Therefore I would like for us to
> do a beta 3 so that we can shake out things better.
>
> Given holiday realities, I'm proposing mid December for a beta 3, and mid
> January for a release candidate. So this slips us by 2 months. But
> regardless we will first fix our blocking bugs. The alternative, to back
> out changes, is not realistic for our comparatively small group of
> committers. But we will have better automated testing to prevent pip and
> ssl regressing in this way in the future.
>
> - Jim
>
> (Tomorrow I will be on vacation for a week, sailing in the Gulf of
> California out of La Paz, Mexico. I plan to be very unreachable!)
>
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