Re: Jython 2.7.1 rc3 soft release

+1 on the docs front. Also for moving from news-centric perspective to general setup/usage.

So many requests here and on IRC are due to old doc and old homepage.

Unfortunately I cannot contribute to this effort in near future, certainly not during GSoC period. But thanks for kicking this off!

>> I'm sure there's other material we can use, drawing from the wiki, the book, and other sources.

Sooner or later I'd like to add the examples from this paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.00825.pdf

Note that the tkinter-from-Java example is more about Jython/Java integration via Py.newJ method family, which makes

access of Python API from Java more convenient. Stuff involving JyNI would be labeled experimental.

Maybe I will also find a JyNI-independent Py.newJ example.

-Stefan

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2017 um 22:41 Uhr

Von: "Jim Baker" <[email protected]>

An: "Jeff Allen" <[email protected]>

Cc: "Jython Developers" <[email protected]>

Betreff: Re: [Jython-dev] Jython 2.7.1 rc3 soft release

So far everything is working well for me on OSX and Ubuntu with RC3, as expected. We have also had no new bug reports against RC3. So everything is looking good for a July 1 release.

At this point, I think it's more about us updating our docs. I was on vacation for the last few days, but on the plane back yesterday I started to work on what we might want to do to update from our current site.

The current repo for the jython.org website is at https://hg.python.org/jython-docs/website/ , with the build process described by https://hg.python.org/jython-docs/website/file/tip/README.txt Note that the bulk of the repo is a pushed version of the build itself; of that, it's mostly the Python 2.6 docs IIRC.

Most likely what we should do is use travis-ci to build our docs from a new github repo, using content in RST that Sphinx can build, then push onto github pages for jython.github.io ; we can have the PSF admins update DNS to point jython.org accordingly. https://github.com/Syntaf/travis-sphinx looks promising in terms of some specific setup aspects. For now, I would just link against the python.org 2.7 docs, vs trying to maintain our own copy (which is not current against either Jython 2.5 or 2.7 regardless).

As for front page content, I would emphasize news less than the current Jython site, and more about how Jython can and should be used. This is similar to what is done for python.org itself. I have content from my Jython talk from PyCon from 2015 that can be repurposed here, as well as the article I co-authored with Josh Juneau for Java Magazine. I'm sure there's other material we can use, drawing from the wiki, the book, and other sources.

Ideally we can complete this all by July 1, by keeping it focused and again reusing what we already have. Most importantly this leaves us in place with a workflow that can help keep the site more up-to-date through standard PRs than what we have now.

Any thoughts?

- Jim

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Jeff Allen <[email protected] > wrote:

I confirm essentially the same results for user 用户名 with Chinese localisation. (Jython works fine, but pip only if you're ASCII.)

Jeff

On 19/06/2017 08:15, Jeff Allen wrote:

I tried this on my user account "Épreuve" to check basic non-ascii handling on Windows. The result is not totally clean, but I would say we're still ok.

I used the standard installer, but to a directory within C:\Users\Épreuve\... as non-ascii paths to the installation directory were an issue. And I ran the regression tests with -e.

I get the test failures noted in http://bugs.jython.org/issue2594 and http://bugs.jython.org/issue2308 , which involve things missing from the environment we deliver to users, or they are faults in the tests that expect something different.

I get two failures (in test_socket and test_urllib2_localnet) that are to do with my ISP's ever more aggressive approach to mis-typed URLs. This is a change for the worse. Would you believe that on my machine I can actually ping non.existent.server and get a round-trip time of 20ms? Thanks guys.

And I get showers of netty errors again. :( But not so as the test fails.

Then I tried pip, which doesn't like non-ascii paths much. pip install yolk (failed) and then after pip uninstall yolk, I tried jython -m pip install yolk (failed). Both failed trying to encode a path to ascii (to write to file, I think), towards the end of the process, when running setup_yolk.py (I think). To my surprise, jython -m pip install sphinx ran to completion (a surprise since it brings so many subsidiary packages it seemed sure to fail). So I suspect the yolk failure, although it occurs down in the support libraries, actually stems from the use of default encoding to write FS-encoded data, traceable back to yolk itself.

I haven't tried this with Chinese localisation yet, as it takes a bit more to set up.

Bottom line: our bit works, but doesn't make up for others' shortcomings. We can all feel justly satisfied.

Jeff

On 17/06/2017 17:48, [email protected] wrote:

Hi all,

I've put together a soft release of 2.7.1 rc2.

Please test! As soon as I get a couple of sanity checks, I'll finalize

the RC and do a real announcement.

The releases:

installer: https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/orgpython-1067/org/python/jython-installer/2.7.1-rc3/jython-installer-2.7.1-rc3.jar

standalone: https://oss.sonatype.org/content/repositories/orgpython-1068/org/python/jython-standalone/2.7.1-rc3/jython-standalone-2.7.1-rc3.jar

The parent directories of each of the above have the checksums, source

jars, javadocs, etc.

-Frank

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