Re: funding jython development

Its really great to hear about these projects using Jython. I feel we
should do more, to try and collect together these examples, to promote
Jython.

I'm not sure whats the best way of doing this is, but for now could I
encourage you to take a look at the new Jython website
https://jython.github.io/ and contribute a pull request to
https://github.com/jython/jython.github.io/ to add your projects to the
"Who uses Jython?" section. I'm starting to think we should move this to a
separate page but for now would be great to have more projects listed.

James Mudd

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 at 16:02, Tobias Kohn <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> As I am a research associate at the computer laboratory in Cambridge, I
> would also be interested in collaborating on a project to move Jython
> forward within an academic setting.
>
>
> *> Also, it's always interesting to hear what people are doing with
> Jython, where it provides a unique advantage, both your work and in Fiji.*
>
> On the danger of going slightly off topic, may I add that I have found
> Jython to be a great and outstandingly helpful tool in my work, too.  While
> I was teaching programming in high schools, I found Python to be a superb
> language, while IDLE and Python's standard packages were quite limited and
> limiting.  Since I was not allowed to install any software on the
> computers, but could run a Java application, I turned to Jython and built
> an education programming environment "TigerJython" on top of Jython [1,
> 2].  My initial "hack" turned into a PhD thesis and quickly gained large
> popularity in Switzerland.  It is by now one of the most frequently used
> programming environment in schools, and is being adopted in other countries
> as well.
>
> Indeed, the easy integration with Java turned out to be an essential
> feature and great asset, as it allowed to continue using libraries formerly
> designed for Java.  This also led to a collaboration where we used Jython
> as a basis for music-based programming [3].
>
> So, yes, Jython is really great work and extremely useful.  Thank you all!
>
> Kind regards,
> Tobias Kohn
>
>
> [1]  http://jython.tobiaskohn.ch/
> [2]  https://tobiaskohn.ch/index.php/research/research-tigerjython/
> [3]  https://jythonmusic.me/
>
>
>
>
> Quoting [email protected]:
>
> Thanks very much for the offer to help! Others have given great
> answers to (1) and (2), I can give a more detailed answer for (3):
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:40 AM Albert Cardona <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Question 3: rpython (from pypy) used to have a jvm backend in its git
> tree. I assume jython developers have considered pursuing that route,
> and if not, why not?
>
> I discussed this with the PyPy folks some years back. It's a very
> interesting prospect but it has a major stumbling block: a big
> advantage that Jython has is the ability to leverage the advances in
> the underlying JVM. It would be very difficult to utilize these
> advances in a JVM oriented PyPy because PyPy has its own technologies
> in these areas deeply baked in. To take one major example, Jython uses
> the garbage collection technologies provided by the JVM, where a JVM
> PyPy implementation would use the PyPy developed garbage collection
> mechanisms which would not be as effective as the JVM native version.
> The expense of trying to route around PyPy's technology in these areas
> was deemed to high (for these reasons I think work on the JVM PyPy has
> been stalled for a very long time).
>
> -Frank
>
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