Re: Overloading __index and __newindex

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Peter Colberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:34:01AM -0800, Jason McKesson wrote:
> > On 2/15/2012 11:19 AM, Ryan Pavlik wrote:
>
> > >In any case, I'll take this as an indication that nobody would
> > >mind me making unofficial 0.9.1.x releases. I've already
> > >integrated all patches I've seen go by on this mailing list, as
> > >well as quite a few of my own. If anyone has changes or
> > >improvements, I'm happy to accept pull requests.
>
> > As long as the release is solid, it's fine. But where are you going
> > to put it? I imagine Github has a place for downloads, but what
> > about the website with updated documentation? Furthermore, how are
> > you going to get it to people who would find Luabind by typing it
> > into Google? The first place they'll go is Sourceforge, which will
> > still have the old stuff.
>
> He has to give it different name of course, that's how forking works.
>
> @Ryan: Did you ask Daniel Wallin to take over the project?
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Abandoned%20Project%20Takeovers
>
> That would avoid a name change.
>
> Peter
>

Whoah!

I don't want to fork the project, or "take it over" in a sourceforge-y
sense (Forgot there even was a sourceforge project despite this list going
through there and bearing their ads), or start any arguments, nor dismiss a
useful discussion - just leave a discussion I probably should not have
entered in the first place.  When push comes to shove, I'm more of a
power-user of Luabind who makes some cleanups and a few tweaks (and a build
system addition) than a library developer, which is why I probably should
have stayed out of this one to begin with. I just would be willing to be
the "lazy integrating maintainer" (in a github-y sense, not a sourceforge-y
sense)as I've done for other projects (wiiuse in particular, where the
original maintainer and site literally disappeared) and as github
facilitates. Without explicit permission, I'd only use sub-version-numbers
of the last released one out of courtesy.

Goodness it's easy to accidentally end up in an argument on the internet!
I'll kindly bow out of the discussion at this point, for fear of ending up
like this: http://xkcd.com/386/  My personal criteria for maintainership of
a project are if I see somewhat-recent commits on some fork in the network
on GitHub, and preferably a little bit of mailing list activity if such a
list exists. I'm comfortable with a "bazaar" but know others would like or
need to demonstrate a more cathedral-style maintainership.

Jason, I'm sorry my "oh rats, I started an argument on the Internet"
paragraph ended up sounding like sharp rhetoric - I promise I didn't think
that hard about it. I'm sorry, I really didn't mean to do any offense to
you personally or the discussion occurring in this thread. Thanks for being
so passionate about a piece of open-source software I like and use so
frequently - it bodes well for the future state of the project because it
means others like and use it too and do so at a more personal level that
can inspire action.

Ryan
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Ryan Pavlik
HCI Graduate Student
Virtual Reality Applications Center
Iowa State University

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